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Old 12-28-2010, 7:17am   #1
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Talking The Top Most-Admired Ranks

President Obama, Hillary Clinton top most-admired ranks
President Obama, Hillary Clinton top most-admired ranks - USATODAY.com

WASHINGTON — His party may have suffered a shellacking in November's elections, but President Obama remains the unchallenged champion on another front: For the third year in a row, he is by far the most-admired man.
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton continues an even longer run, ranked in the USA TODAY/Gallup Poll as the most-admired woman for the ninth straight year. Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin is second, as she was in 2009.

THE OVAL: The more Obama governs, the less popular he is
Despite Americans' unhappiness with the nation's politics, politicians dominate both lists. The top 10 men include not only the president but also three living former presidents. Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton take the top three spots.

Among women, nine of the top 11 are connected to politics through public service, political activism or marriage.

"It's all about power," says Richard Slotkin, professor emeritus of American studies at Wesleyan University in Middletown, Conn. "When we think of importance, we think politically, that's really clear — with religion a close second, though Bill Gates beats out Pope Benedict. It's almost like a register of power."

Not on either top 10 list: a Supreme Court justice, senator or House member, athlete or scientist.

Conservative commentator Glenn Beck edges ahead of the Dalai Lama, who ranks 10th. Gates, a philanthropist and co-founder of Microsoft, stands just behind South African icon Nelson Mandela and just before Pope Benedict XVI.
Evangelist Billy Graham, tied for sixth, has made the top 10 every year the survey has been taken since 1955.

The top 11 women (three are tied for ninth place) counts four first ladies, including Michelle Obama in fourth place.

Celebrities Oprah Winfrey and Angelina Jolie, both of whom pursue charitable causes, are on the list. Three of the women are leaders from abroad: Queen Elizabeth and former prime minister Margaret Thatcher of Great Britain and democracy activist Aung San Suu Kyi of Burma.

Barack Obama's standing has fallen from the heady days after his election in 2008. That year, he was cited by 32%, a historic rating that trailed only Bush's percentage in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks in 2001 and President Kennedy in 1961.

This year, Obama was named by 22%, and Bush was named by 5%.
Some of the findings reflect a partisan cast. Obama is named by almost half of Democrats but just 6% of Republicans. Bush is the most-admired man among Republicans, cited by 11%. Hillary Clinton is cited by nearly a third of Democrats but just 5% of Republicans. Palin is the most-admired woman among Republicans, at 26%.

Not everyone has a hero. Twenty-five percent declined to name a most-admired man, and 22% didn't name a most-admired woman. About one in 10 chose a friend or relative.

The Dec. 10-12 survey of 1,019 adults has a margin of error of +/–4 percentage points.



10 MOST ADMIRED

Is admiration a family affair? Three Bushes, two Obamas and two Clintons appear in the lists, which also include politicians, activists, religious figures, royalty and one actor.

Most admired man:
1. Barack Obama
2. George W. Bush
3. Bill Clinton
4. Nelson Mandela
5. Bill Gates
6. (tied) Pope Benedict XVI
6. (tied) Billy Graham
8. (tied) Jimmy Carter
8. (tied) Glenn Beck
10. The Dalai Lama

Most admired woman
1. Hillary Clinton
2. Sarah Palin
3. Oprah Winfrey
4. Michelle Obama
5. Condoleezza Rice
6. Queen Elizabeth
7. Angelina Jolie
8. Margaret Thatcher
9. (tied) Aung San Suu Kyi
9. (tied) Laura Bush
9. (tied) Barbara Bush
Source: USA TODAY/Gallup Poll of 1,019 adults taken Dec. 10-12, 2010.
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The Bush Tax Cuts are the most admired man by the right-wing ... otherwise he never existed ...

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Honestly that's pretty sad.



Interesting statisic there.
23% of Americans don’t know if the POTUS was born in America.
22% believe the POTUS wasn’t born in America.

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Where did you get those stats?

I didn't see them in the article.
Now MSNBC’s Chris Matthews Wants To See The Birth Certificate | Here's The Right Side Of It

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Thanks for the link.


According to the new article posted:
"for the 23% of polled citizens who say they just don’t know what to believe."

Which is not exactly "23% of Americans don’t know if the POTUS was born in America."

So that's a slight inaccurate interpretation of the data presented.

That said, I didn't see anything that stated, "22% believe the POTUS wasn’t born in America."

I saw the "only 58% of Americans polled believe that Obama is a U.S. Citizen."

But if you take the 58% that believe he was born in the US, add it to the 22% who don't know you get 80%.

So that would leave 20% left to divide into what ever category/categories are left in the poll.


All of that said, I hope Matthews can help get this issue but to bed once and for all. IMHO, I don't know for certain if he was fully born in Hawai'i or outside the US. So getting the documentation needed to put the issue to rest, one way or another, would be the best course of action. To not do so only fuels the flames of division, which the PotUS has said he doesn't want.


Back to the thread topic, I still think it's sad there are no admired athletes, teachers, scientists and such on the list. Makes one wonder just where the minds of the people are and where they should be.
You had to have seen the show, it was hilarious. Obviously it wasn’t a scientific poll and neither Chris, nor any of the commentators thought any of it was serious. As a matter of fact, The United States Government accepts the exact same type of Birth Certificate to obtain a US Passport.

So they were basically just making fun of the entire Birther crowd and calling it what it really is.


BTW ... Tiger Woods dropped off the list.
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I would imagine to the liberals it is tried to be shown as a joke. However the fact the request is avoided sure doesn't help stop the controversy and unite people, now does it?

It doesn't matter if the US gov't accepts the one type of certificate for a passport. Wouldn't you want a higher standard for the position of PotUS than a passport?
I liked what one of the commentator said; it doesn’t matter what proof you show these people, because it’s not in their best interest to be proven wrong, so the hell with what they think.

I agree ... "F'em" if they don't beleive it.

Hawaii governor wants to prove Obama was born there
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t...s-born-there/1
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Good call. Time to put this one to rest.

Next, JFK.
News Flash know-it-all; JFK is already at rest.
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can you believe the alcoholic,manic depressive, socialistphobic disc jockey Beck tied with the Pope?
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can you believe the alcoholic,manic depressive, socialistphobic disc jockey Beck tied with the Pope?
That what you get with the Values crowd.
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Yes it is very common knowledge he is.

As is his wife and son.

However, the controversy about his assassination however is not.

Perhaps I should have stated it more clearly so it was understood by all.
Yea … another proud moment in American History
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