Congratulations America (2010)

[ChasC5]

Yet another historic milestone Americans can be proud of.

Obama: Gay service members 'will no longer have to hide' - The Oval: Tracking the Obama presidency

Gay service members will no longer have to hide or lie to serve their country.


When President Obama signs the repeal of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy later this morning, the nation's first African-American chief executive is likely to hail it as another civil rights milestone.

"Gay and lesbian service members -- brave Americans who enable our freedoms -- will no longer have to hide who they are," Obama said in an e-mail to supporters after the Senate voted to lift the ban. "The fight for civil rights, a struggle that continues, will no longer include this one."
The president signs the bill at 9:15 this morning, Eastern Time.

In the meantime, supporters of the repeal are warning service members that the bill signing is not the immediate end of the ban -- the Pentagon has up to 60 days to adjust to the new rules, so theoretically gay service members are still subject to the ban in the interim.

"The bottom line: for now, gay, lesbian, and bisexual service members must remain cautiously closeted," said Aubrey Sarvis, executive director for Service members Legal Defense Network.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said that once Obama signs the repeal, Defense Secretary Robert Gates will set up "an implementation working group."

"That starts the process," Gibbs said.
Gibbs also said that he expects Obama to talk about "the nature" of the Don't Ask, Don't Tell issue, and "about why he thought, as many in Congress did, that it was important that this law be repealed."
In his e-mail to supporters, Obama said that lifting the ban on gays in the military is a "personal" victory.

"I will never know what it feels like to be discriminated against because of my sexual orientation," Obama said. "But I know my story would not be possible without the sacrifice and struggle of those who came before me -- many I will never meet, and can never thank."

He added: "I know this repeal is a crucial step for civil rights, and that it strengthens our military and national security. I know it is the right thing to do."

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Don't we already have a thread on this topic?

https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/p...on-t-tell.html

In the real world; News CHANGES daily … please cry try to keep up with CHANGE or get left behind!

Headlines aside, 'don't ask, don't tell' stays in place - CNN.com

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by TxAg

No joke? Seriously?

Here's a tip, you don't need a new thread on the same subject just because something "changes".

If you need cluepon I can get ya one.

Here's the additional cluepon for you ...




DADT repeal timeline still uncertain

First Read - DADT repeal timeline still uncertain


As President Barack Obama signs legislation to roll back the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy, Pentagon officials still don't have a clue how long it will take to implement the repeal and lift the ban on gays and lesbians openly serving in the military.

The law itself says the repeal will not take effect until Secretary Robert Gates, Joint Chiefs Chairman Mike Mullen and the President himself certify the military's readiness.

But before that certification, the Pentagon needs to come up with a plan for implementation to deal specifically with issues such as housing and benefits for same-sex partners, the rights of gays and lesbians (particularly in the area of enlistment or re-enlistment), and an education and training regimen for all servicemembers.

While the law itself does not lay out a timetable for those plans, Gates has suggested that it could take as long as a year.

There also appears to be no desire among Pentagon officials to slap a moratorium on enforcement of Don't Ask Don't Tell pending that implementation and certification process.

In October, Gates imposed new more stringent procedures for enforcement of the ban -- which many in the military already consider a de facto moratorium.

The Pentagon doesn't know if any new DADT cases have been referred up the chain of command since then.

However, Pentagon officials and the service chiefs have made it clear to servicemembers that until certification, DADT remains the law. Anyone who openly declares they are gay or lesbian could be subject to separation from the service -- at least as of now.

[ChasC5]

That faint sound you hear in the distance, are the sounds of Old Draconian, Dried Out, Wrinkled Dinosaurs dying away.

They are trying to hang on to their once proud superiority complex.

Going, going, going ……… Gone!

[Exotix]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

That faint sound you hear in the distance, are the sounds of Old Draconian, Dried Out, Wrinkled Dinosaurs dying away.

They are trying to hang on to their once proud superiority complex.

Going, going, going ……… Gone!

What will become of CFPR&C ...

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Sorry to hear about your and Exotix medical conditions.


False assertion fail, again for poor Chas.



You're leaving? We'll miss you. Or not.

Losing your command and control

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by TxAg

No joke? Seriously?

Here's a tip, you don't need a new thread on the same subject just because something "changes".

If you need cluepon I can get ya one.

Here are a couple tips;

Just because you don’t want to hear about, doesn’t mean it’s not newsworthy!

You can always choose to click on other links that interest you.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Ok class, let's see if they're useful. Odds are 2:1 they aren't.




Tip #1 not useful.

Also a false accusation, typical Chas MO when he won't admit he's wrong.




Tip #2, not useful. Gotta click the link to fully determine if it is interesting.
That has nothing to do with having two threads on the same topic.


So to recap, your dupe thread should be merged with the original DADT thread and your tips are useless.

Thank you for your input; I’ll pass your input to my Input Manager, Helen Wait.

For further input recommendations, please go to Helen Wait.

[Peter Pan]

Glad my service to America is over as serving with a gay that I had to openly share showers or quarters with would not work in my case. Young troops and in war are housed in the same quarters, this may work where I grew up in San Francisco, but the Military is not the same as civilian life, it is now. Gays have been serving forever they just keep it to themselves and this is how it should be going forward.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by Peter Pan

Glad my service to America is over as serving with a gay that I had to openly share showers or quarters with would not work in my case. Young troops and in war are housed in the same quarters, this may work where I grew up in San Francisco, but the Military is not the same as civilian life, it is now. Gays have been serving forever they just keep it to themselves and this is how it should be going forward.

Why are you so shy in the shower?

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Are you saying you're "open" in the shower?

I sure as hell don't have anything to be shy about!

Once again, fear is terrible thing to live with.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Hey if you enjoy having dudes put their hands all over you, more power to you.

You and Exotix don't need to post pics of your shower time together.

What's the matter tuff guy, need someone to protect you.

You probably should stay out of the Military.

[ChasC5]

Anyway; a big Congradulations to America!

We've come a long way!

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by TxAg

100% disagree.


In regards to racial equality, yes.

Being gay != race.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

God Bless America

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Great you can copy and paste from the Declaration of Independence. Your point?

It's obvious it's beyond you.

[zz4vetteguy]

Originally Posted by TxAg

In regards to racial equality, yes.

Being gay != race.

What, we are a race now? I always thought I was an Italian American...or just white....now I have to start checking another box?

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Do you really want to start up this game again Chas?

I asked you what your point was in posting that quote.

If you don't want actually engage in an intelligent discussion and/or debate, perhaps you need to leave this part of the forum since that's what it's for.

You are not in charge and thus you don't demand anything from me.

Sorry, you are off a century.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by TxAg

So you are refusing to participate in the discussion and merely want to troll the thread? That's what your saying?

My choice to post a topic that I am interested in, shows my participation. My response to you insult shows my participation above and beyond my Thread.

If my responses are not meeting your personal standards then simply remember, they are my responses and it is my view of participation.

Hopefully this response meets your approval.

[wwomanC6]

Let me interfere before this gets started! Would like a PEACEFUL Xmas!

Originally Posted by TxAg

Great you can copy and paste from the Declaration of Independence. Your point?

Originally Posted by TxAg

Do you really want to start up this game again Chas?

I asked you what your point was in posting that quote.

If you don't want actually engage in an intelligent discussion and/or debate, perhaps you need to leave this part of the forum since that's what it's for.

Before you get all excited, to me, he is trying to convey that everyone is created equal regardless of race or sexual preference, or anything else.

Originally Posted by TxAg

I specifically said being gay != race.

I don't think being gay is a race, it is merely a sexual orientation!

Originally Posted by TxAg

So you are refusing to participate in the discussion and merely want to troll the thread? That's what your saying?

Trying to start a fight again? I have an answer for that too! You will not like my answer TxAg!

We will have a Peaceful Xmas on here!

[Y2Kvert4me]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Being gay != race.

Originally Posted by zz4vetteguy

What, we are a race now?

Originally Posted by TxAg

I specifically said being gay != race.

Originally Posted by wwomanC6

I don't think being gay is a race, it is merely a sexual orientation!

For those of you misunderstanding...

"!=" is fairly common slang amongst computer geeks and coders.

It simply means "not equal".