Who won the debate: What the polls say...

[lspencer534]

Some polls are predictable, some are not:

Drudge Report

Trump 82%

Clinton 17%

TIME Magazine

Trump 55%

Clinton 45%

CNBC

Trump 67%

Clinton 33%

The Patch (Atlanta)

Trump 84%

Clinton 16%

CNN*

Clinton 62%

Trump 27%
(*CNN's pool sample was 41% Democrat and 26% Republican)

Bear in mind that the online polls are not scientific and, in many cases, supporters of either candidate can cast multiple ballots.

Experts were near unanimous in finding Clinton was more disciplined and armed with greater recall of facts, but Trump’s blunt style and unconventional background are among his best attributes. Trump’s best moment came when he distinguished himself from Clinton based on their disparate backgrounds. Trump characterized his opponent as a "typical politician," who knows how to make statements and promises that sound good, but who never actually gets things done.

Lester Holt, the moderator, challenged or asked Trump follow-up questions 26 times. He did this to Clinton only twice. Something of a cloud hangs over the debate when it was noticed that a crew member collected Clinton's notes from her podium and handed them to Holt. Was she given the questions ahead of time and had prepared answers?

[Bill]

I'm not putting too much stock in those online polls. As I recall, Ron Paul would have been our president back in '08 and we wouldn't be in the mess we are in right now.....but those polls back then clearly weren't accurate.

[6spdC6]

Originally Posted by lspencer534

Some polls are predictable, some are not:

Drudge Report

Trump 82%

Clinton 17%

TIME Magazine

Trump 55%

Clinton 45%

CNBC

Trump 67%

Clinton 33%

The Patch (Atlanta)

Trump 84%

Clinton 16%

CNN*

Clinton 62%

Trump 27%
(*CNN's pool sample was 41% Democrat and 26% Republican)

Bear in mind that the online polls are not scientific and, in many cases, supporters of either candidate can cast multiple ballots.

Experts were near unanimous in finding Clinton was more disciplined and armed with greater recall of facts, but Trump’s blunt style and unconventional background are among his best attributes. Trump’s best moment came when he distinguished himself from Clinton based on their disparate backgrounds. Trump characterized his opponent as a "typical politician," who knows how to make statements and promises that sound good, but who never actually gets things done.

Lester Holt, the moderator, challenged or asked Trump follow-up questions 26 times. He did this to Clinton only twice. Something of a cloud hangs over the debate when it was noticed that a crew member collected Clinton's notes from her podium and handed them to Holt. Was she given the questions ahead of time and had prepared answers?

O hell its a good bet that Hill gave out the question she wanted to be asked a few days ago.

I knew it before it began that Trump had to take on hill and the "so called'' moderator.

Anyone on here ever heard the term kangaroo court?

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

All I know is Hill won later.

#HILLWENTFORTHEBUTTSTUFFLASTNIGHT

[Bill]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Ron Paul on-line polls was the first thing I thought of too.

Glad that nut-job didn't get in the White House.

And yet it's interesting that many of Trump's positions closely resemble Paul's positions. The illegal and Muslim issues excepted, of course.

Against the US being the world's policeman? Check and check.
Against ballooning national debt? Check and check.
Against crippling government regulation? Check and check.
Against the Iraq War? Check and check.
We blew all of our money on failed ideas and policies and now have nothing to show for a $ 20T national debt? Check and check.

I could go on.

Trump is by no means a libertarian, any more than he is a conservative, but he has the star power to promote common sense, America first, ideas , whereas RP was just looked at as being a little weird for promoting many of the same ideas. Things had to get to this level before many Americans finally clued in to the fact that we are headed down the toilet.

RP, like Perot, was just ahead of his time.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Those don't make Ron Paul a nut job.

Thankfully his son isn't near as nutty as he is.

I'd vote for Rand any day of the week and twice on Sunday over the top two piles a turd we have now.

I liked Rand too but wow, when push comes to shove, he always sides with the establishment. That fact killed him in the primaries.

[Cybercowboy]

[Mike Mercury]

I don't know what people were expecting... maybe that Trump would point at our reptillian mother-lord and shout:



You're Fired !



He was of a more serious manor, more like at a board meeting discussing a major business deal; and not there to entertain us as part of a TV reality episode.

[99 pewtercoupe]

Originally Posted by Mike Mercury

our reptillian mother-lord

[Rob]

Being a math major I was always taught that numbers don't lie. But you can always lie with numbers

[Sneaks]

Originally Posted by Thomas

All I know is Hill won later.

#HILLWENTFORTHEBUTTSTUFFLASTNIGHT

I bet your ass is still sore from the pounding she gave you huh? You know damn well that masochistic bitch wouldnt lube ya or nothin.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by TxAg

Lies, Damn Lies and Hillary speeches.

I agree.

[Cybercowboy]

I really like this one:



Look at Undecided-to-Trump is 34, Undecided-to-Clinton is 5!

[mrvette]

ALL the above does not MATTER a whit DAMN.....the ballot count is rigged with the electronics, ACORN nationwide, financed by SOROS riggs the ELECTONIC count....not the ballots, that shit is just a distraction...to frustrate the poll workers.....meanwhile the REAL operatives rig the electronic count and so to prevent another 'election' being stolen like the last two go rounds.....

this NATION needs manual paper ballot counting at the precinct level like we did 50 years ago.....ALL else is bullshit.....

AND if Trump looooooses, we need a revolution, flat out....take the islamic/commies out of power.....permanently....forever.....

[MrPeabody]

I have worked at my local polling place for about 7 years, at every position from clerk to inspector. We basically still use paper ballots, but the law requires electronic voting to be made available. This is due primarily to the people who make the electronic equipment lobbying to get such laws passed.

Now we are a small town with a primarily elderly population, and most people vote by absentee ballot. So on election day, about 100-150 is the average turnout. We offer them a paper ballot, but also inform them they may vote electronically. I all the years I have worked there how many people do you think have used the electronic ballot? How about three. Shows what the people here, anyway, think of electronic voting. Over the years I can't imagine how much money county wide has been wasted on purchasing and manning these machines.

[Cybercowboy]

All paper here in MO, counted by machine but at least with an audit trail.

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

All paper here in MO, counted by machine but at least with an audit trail.

How you going to 'audit trail' any electronic device unless you count the paper ballots manually???

[Olustee bus]

Originally Posted by mrvette

ALL the above does not MATTER a whit DAMN.....the ballot count is rigged with the electronics, ACORN nationwide, financed by SOROS riggs the ELECTONIC count....not the ballots, that shit is just a distraction...to frustrate the poll workers.....meanwhile the REAL operatives rig the electronic count and so to prevent another 'election' being stolen like the last two go rounds.....

this NATION needs manual paper ballot counting at the precinct level like we did 50 years ago.....ALL else is bullshit.....

AND if Trump looooooses, we need a revolution, flat out....take the islamic/commies out of power.....permanently....forever.....

Well, I'll be damn. Now we got a real problem here.