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Old 11-26-2020, 2:35pm   #21
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We do realize that.
Some people with disabilities do not unfortunately.
The real question is, do you really want to take the chance of losing everything?
People settle in and just forget, until it's their turn, and play the odds.
It costs money to move , uproot, and find jobs, and lose seniority.
I get it. Cali is beautiful and the weather does not suck.
The earth moves and burns sometimes though, so playing the odds is just
that.

Living anywhere you're playing against the odds.

We don't have Hurricanes, Blizzards, Flooding or Tornadoes. Just Fk'ing Liberals that keep moving out here.
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Living anywhere you're playing against the odds.

We don't have Hurricanes, Blizzards, Flooding or Tornadoes. Just Fk'ing Liberals that keep moving out here.
Meh. Snow melts and your house is still there.
Liberals live everywhere.
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Meh. Snow melts and your house is still there.
Liberals live everywhere.


Is it there after flooding, Hurricanes and tornadoes?

But they've infested our state when we use to be a Red state. And we get stuck with the Nancy Pelosi's, Maxine Waters, and Gavin Newsom's.
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Is it there after flooding, Hurricanes and tornadoes?

But they've infested our state when we use to be a Red state. And we get stuck with the Nancy Pelosi's, Maxine Waters, and Gavin Newsom's.
Tornados and flooding are rare in WNY and Rehoboth Beach Delaware if you live away from the beach.
Ya, Buffalo had blizzards and was cold as balls for four months, but my house was never compromised.
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Tornados and flooding are rare in WNY and Rehoboth Beach Delaware if you live away from the beach.
Ya, Buffalo had blizzards and was cold as balls for four months, but my house was never compromised.


Either is mine, ever.
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Huge difference between culling back old growth and what burns in California. What causes California to burn is the extreme dry tinder coupled with winds. These plants that burn down neighborhoods were just seedlings a few months before. They grow into chaparral in a short rainy season, they dry out and burn a few months later. You can’t control burn what doesn’t exist. California is on an annual cycle not measured in centuries of old growth.
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I never understood why CA burned until I lived there. The vegetation is what we call kindling here.
So just cut it down when maybe 1/4 size and let it die out after a few years of doing that.....no more growth, no more fuel.....
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I never understood why CA burned until I lived there. The vegetation is what we call kindling here.
So we have this stuff in the chaparral called manzanita. Fire doesn't even need to touch it, as if gets hot enough, the oil inside it causes it to explode into flames.

Grows like weeds, not like forest. Can't imagine what it would take to eradicate the threat, but this is not anything like trimming up to 10' to keep the fire on the ground.
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So just cut it down when maybe 1/4 size and let it die out after a few years of doing that.....no more growth, no more fuel.....
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So we have this stuff in the chaparral called manzanita. Fire doesn't even need to touch it, as if gets hot enough, the oil inside it causes it to explode into flames.

Grows like weeds, not like forest. Can't imagine what it would take to eradicate the threat, but this is not anything like trimming up to 10' to keep the fire on the ground.
Imagine having to mow the entire surface area of every mountain every year.
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Imagine having to mow the entire surface area of every mountain every year.
Wasn't that/similar work done up untill say 50 years ago or so?? why was it stopped, or has the population/housing been planted in all the hazard regions??

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So just cut it down when maybe 1/4 size and let it die out after a few years of doing that.....no more growth, no more fuel.....
So... here’s your forest that you think should be cut down to 1/4 size.

And so, it already burned the year before, but the spring rain caused the chaparral to grow in a few months. Then it burned again. This fire started 30 miles from my house and spread in four hours while I was asleep. Today it looks like it never burned.

You have actually zero clue about how growth cycles work here in California.
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has the population/housing been planted in all the hazard regions??
They build houses up in the hills because of the views. More and more get built every year.

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They build houses up in the hills because of the views. More and more get built every year.

Home insurance must cost a fortune
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Home insurance must cost a fortune
Generally, you go through the California Fair Plan for wildfire insurance. It is pricey. But you pay to play.
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No more than say, Hatteras, the Outer Banks...
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Not really. If you can afford a 2-65 million dollar home depending where it's at then the insurance isn't a problem. Like owning a Ferrari. You don't worry about maintenance and insurance when you buy one.
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that.
No one here forgets. People may choose to be unprepared, but no one forgets.

Just like any other natural disaster in any part of the country, you either choose to be prepared or you choose not to be.

And if one chooses to live in California, they need to make good choices based on their financial ability. Simple as that. Don’t move here in a high risk zone if you can’t afford to leave if you need to. It’s all about personal accountability.
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No more than say, Hatteras, the Outer Banks...
I paid $850/yr for a 300k, 2600 sqft ranch in the fourth ring of Buffalo. 3 acres and a 4000 sqft barn.
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Beach sand doesn't burn.




When you coming down for a visit toots?
I don’t know. So busy at work with our LA groups. Orange County implementation starts next. About 6 months.
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I paid $850/yr for a 300k, 2600 sqft ranch in the fourth ring of Buffalo. 3 acres and a 4000 sqft barn.
Where you live and what you pay is similar to the Hot/Crazy Woman chart.... on the one hand, you can have an insanely hot woman, but she will be correspondingly cray cray. At the opposite end of the spectrum you can have a very stable and intelligent woman, but she has the face of Mother Theresa and the body of Rosie O’Donnell.

So Buffalo.......
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