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Old 11-07-2020, 3:38pm   #41
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I’ve given Jeff two opportunities in the last 24 hr to enlighten us on why Biden is good for the country and he has failed to respond with anything remotely answering the question.

Don’t hold your breath waiting.
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You know Jeff won’t answer or be specific about anything. Jeff is VB’s version of RIM at CF. Both are trolls who contribute nothing of value but love to stir the pot.
Only RIM is good at it
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He knows how to troll.
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You think, "I can afford to pay more at each fill up, so who cares?" You haven't considered the massive inflation that will result as the price of everything you and everyone else buys skyrockets. Every single thing you own was transported on a truck, ship, rail car, or pipeline, and higher transportation costs equal higher prices for everything. Compound that with the fact that everything MADE from oil and gas gets dramatically more expensive. Do you use plastic? Do you buy tires? Do you use things made out of steel? (We use coke...coal, to make steel.) The cost of that stuff gets a double whammy increase, first because of the huge increase in raw material cost, then the increased transport costs.

If you'll recall, it was $ 5/gal diesel that was a large part of crashing the economy in 2008. Why do you think it was so important for the US to be energy independent? Low and stable energy prices are necessary for an economy to flourish.



Edit: As I recall, one of our members works for an aluminum company that operates smelters. Plants had to be closed when the price of natural gas skyrocketed. People lost their jobs. Tax revenue evaporated. High energy prices have real world, negative consequences to lots of Americans.
I work for the Aluminium Smelter, we closed because we could not compete with China. Look at all the Smelters there are in China and figure how in the heck can you compete with that. London Metal Exchange, LME, prices are around 1850 a metric ton right now. Most smelters in the US are not competitive and lose money at around 1900 a ton. We bleed cash each month, but we somewhat make up for it with MISO power and supporting our rolling mill. When not my president starts trying to enact legislation to kill fossil fuels, the economy will tank and tank hard. We see the end in the near future again for our Smelter, you can't compete with the Government.

There is a lot of stuff to say about forgetful Joe, but I'm not getting into the political BS. I agree with someone else saying it will be like Jimmy Carter all over again. Hopefully we will have a strong leader rolling along in four years to help clean up the mess like the country did back in 80 with Reagan.
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Your New President - Joseph Biden
[CNN-o'crats for the past 4 years] He's not my president! [/CNN-o'crats for the past 4 years]
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Bunch of fraudulent voters celebrating all over America right now.

Is he counting them too?
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Old 11-07-2020, 6:52pm   #51
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This was at 4pm and the traffic is brutal
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If this sticks it will be a tainted win. Biden is a loser period. It will not surprise me on bit if a year from now Biden is out and that bitch who suck at her job is president. President Trump is not done and he will fight all the way to the supreme court. I was talking to a friend today and he said it may be a message from God that Trump was able to get a conservative into the supreme court.
Biden won't last a year. I just find it comical that someone with obvious dementia could be elected to the highest office in the land. I think it just shows you how far down the shitter America really is. Trump is an ass, but overall, he did a decent job of running the country. I guess this country is so dumbed down, that they really don't know what they did in electing Biden. If democrat policies only affected democrats, I wouldn't have a problem. But they affect all of us. Hopefully republicans keep control of the senate so the damage of Biden/Harris can be contained.
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I just find it comical that someone with obvious dementia could be elected to the highest office in the land.
Never ceases to amaze me how a country with so many people came up with Biden as the leader of the Democratic party.

But we did the same here in Canada; somehow ended up with an uneducated virtue signaling simp as leader of the Liberal party and he got elected TWICE.

Now he's trying to lower the voting age from 18 to 16 so he can stay in office.
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Never ceases to amaze me how a country with so many people came up with Biden as the leader of the Democratic party.

But we did the same here in Canada; somehow ended up with an uneducated virtue signaling simp as leader of the Liberal party and he got elected TWICE.

Now he's trying to lower the voting age from 18 to 16 so he can stay in office.
the unseen power of the democratic party is amazing. and one day, all these candidates just up and decided they were out of the race before the race was over. poof. ok Joe, you're up.
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Never ceases to amaze me how a country with so many people came up with Biden as the leader of the Democratic party.

But we did the same here in Canada; somehow ended up with an uneducated virtue signaling simp as leader of the Liberal party and he got elected TWICE.

Now he's trying to lower the voting age from 18 to 16 so he can stay in office.
Yeah, because we all need a bunch of children voting. They are trying the same shit here in different areas. The powers that be all know that Biden won't last a year. Hell, he probably thinks he just won his second helping of nanner puddin' at the nursing home.
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Amazing what blackmail, payoffs and threats can do.. So I've heard on the net...
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the unseen power of the democratic party is amazing. and one day, all these candidates just up and decided they were out of the race before the race was over. poof. ok Joe, you're up.
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I will acknowledge the winner of the election after the voting systems are verified as accurate.

Way too many unanswered questions about how things went.


And before you blow up and stomp your feet Jeff'79, what if it happened to biden? Wouldn't you want it verified as a legitimate vote instead of possibly TREASONOUS activities?
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I will acknowledge the winner of the election after the voting systems are verified as accurate.

Way too many unanswered questions about how things went.


And before you blow up and stomp your feet Jeff'79, what if it happened to biden? Wouldn't you want it verified as a legitimate vote instead of possibly TREASONOUS activities?
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid... Touchë


Biden is entering the building.
I have to concentrate
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I will acknowledge the winner of the election after the voting systems are verified as accurate.

Way too many unanswered questions about how things went.


And before you blow up and stomp your feet Jeff'79, what if it happened to biden? Wouldn't you want it verified as a legitimate vote instead of possibly TREASONOUS activities?
Especially, if corruption is found and all this is over turned in President Trump's favor.

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Biden is entering the building.
I have to concentrate
I guess we'll see.

At least I voted for someone who put America first.
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