make no mistake, it was a hoax.

[Mike Mercury]

I've noticed a new narrative about Smollet "it really happened because the police dropped all charges that had claimed it was fake"; "Smollett was exonerated".


Chicago Files Lawsuit Against Jussie Smollett
City wants him to pay police overtime costs

The city of Chicago has made good on its promise to sue Jussie Smollett for the cost of investigating the attack it says he staged. In a lawsuit filed in Cook County Circuit Court on Thursday, city lawyers say they are seeking "the full measure of damages allowed under the false statements ordinance" following the Empire actor's refusal to reimburse the city for the cost of police overtime "investigating his false police report" on Jan. 29. Police say Smollett hired two brothers to stage a hate-crime attack on him. Prosecutors dropped 16 charges against the actor last month but the case files are expected to surface in the civil trial, where there is a lower burden of proof, the Chicago Sun-Times reports.

It's not clear what sum the city is seeking in damages, though it is likely to be higher than the $130,000 it earlier demanded from Smollett, Fox reports. Court filings outline how Smollett allegedly staged the attack, starting with a text to friend Abel Osundairo reading: "Might need your help on the low. You around to meet up and talk face to face?" Later that day, the complaint states, Smollett told Osundairo "he was unhappy with the way his employers handled a racist and homophobic letter he had allegedly received three days earlier, and, as a result, he wanted to stage an attack where Abel would appear to batter him." The complaint states that Smollett directed Osundairo and his brother to fake an attack in which they would "not hurt him too badly" and would give him a "chance to appear to fight back."

https://www.newser.com/story/273809/...mpaign=rss_top

Originally Posted by Wikipee

First Assistant State's Attorney Joseph Magats... made a statement saying that the decision (to drop charges) was not an exoneration of Smollett, "we stand behind the investigation, we stand behind the decision to charge him. The fact that [Smollett] feels that we have exonerated him, we have not. I can’t make it any clearer than that"

[Mike Mercury]

[DAB]

this is a dangerous idea, that the police can decide to investigate any case they see fit, and then if the DA decides not to charge you, to have the police send you a bill for their no doubt inflated costs.

"we spent 3 hours looking for speeders, we didn't find any, but we did record you passing by officer Barney, so here's your bill for 3 hours of Barney's time, pay up!"

[Nox]

Originally Posted by DAB

this is a dangerous idea, that the police can decide to investigate any case they see fit, and then if the DA decides not to charge you, to have the police send you a bill for their no doubt inflated costs.

"we spent 3 hours looking for speeders, we didn't find any, but we did record you passing by officer Barney, so here's your bill for 3 hours of Barney's time, pay up!"

In many places, if it’s your stupidity or negligence that leads to you having to be rescued by a search and recovery team, they bill you for the rescue. I’m on board with that. To me, this is more like his stupidity and criminal acts that lead to a vast waste of law enforcement resources so they should rightfully bill him for it. Your analogy doesn’t quite compare.

[Mike Mercury]

Originally Posted by DAB

"we spent 3 hours looking for speeders, we didn't find any, but we did record you passing by officer Barney, so here's your bill for 3 hours of Barney's time, pay up!"

but that's not what this is.

Smollett did fake a crime; and he should pay for it.

[DAB]

Originally Posted by Mike Mercury

but that's not what this is.

Smollett did fake a crime; and he should pay for it.

we don't know that. case was never tried in court either way.

he said something happened.

police said something else happened.

DA said she wasn't going to charge him.

we, legally, don't know what happened.

[6spdC6]

Originally Posted by DAB

we don't know that. case was never tried in court either way.

he said something happened.

police said something else happened.

DA said she wasn't going to charge him.

we, legally, don't know what happened.

If that Phucking DA had done her job and not pulled all that raciest bullshit in saving his worthless ass we would have all the proof you seem to want/need!

[Cybercowboy]

Smollett faked this hate crime in order to a) frame Trump supporters as racist thugs b) help Kamala Harris get her stupid anti-lynching bill passed (which worked actually.) Now the real juicy question everyone is avoiding (on purpose it seems) is whether it was coordinated with Harris, Booker, and/or others. After all, Jesse was at Kamala's event just a few days prior to carrying out his little passion play.

[Mike Mercury]

Originally Posted by DAB

we don't know that.

yes we do.

Olabinjo and Abimbola Osundairo asked for an attorney once in custody. After their lawyer explained to police that "something smelled fishy," the men told officers that Smollett, who is black and gay, first "attempted to gain attention by sending a false letter that relied on racial, homophobic and political language. When that didn't work, Smollett paid $3,500 to stage this attack,"


Seven days before the alleged attack, a letter was sent to the Chicago set of "Empire." It contained white powder and a drawing of a "stick figure hanging from a tree," police have said.
Authorities determined the powder to be aspirin, police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said. According to prosecutors, Smollett told Abimbola Osundairo that he was disappointed in the "Empire" team's reaction to the letter.

Investigators have the check Smollett used to pay Abimbola Osundairo.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/21/enter...day/index.html

Area Central Cmdr. Edward Wodnicki, who led the investigation, said police and private surveillance cameras were critical to tracing the movements of the brothers and giving detectives a break in the case. He said the brothers’ use of a taxi and a ride-share service were also tracked by detectives.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...221-story.html

Originally Posted by Wikipee

First Assistant State's Attorney Joseph Magats said the office reached a deal with Smollett's defense team in which prosecutors dropped the charges upon Smollett performing 16 hours of community service and forfeiting his $10,000 bond. The FBI is continuing to investigate the threatening letter which Smollet sent to himself.

Magats made a statement saying that the decision (to drop charges) was not an exoneration of Smollett, "we stand behind the investigation, we stand behind the decision to charge him. The fact that [Smollett] feels that we have exonerated him, we have not. I can’t make it any clearer than that"

[Old Ben]

Originally Posted by DAB

we don't know that. case was never tried in court either way.

he said something happened.

police said something else happened.

DA said she wasn't going to charge him.

we, legally, don't know what happened.

[bill_daniels]

Originally Posted by Mike Mercury

yes we do.



https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/21/enter...day/index.html



https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...221-story.html

Yes, your honor, I saw Jack Ruby gun down Oswald.

That's evidence, but not proven guilty in a court. DAB is right, we are innocent until proven guilty....in court. The PD would have a better argument suing the DA's office for the cost of the investigation. Truly, Chicago area Trump supporters who own MAGA hats would have a better cause of action, as they were victims of the hoax, and their safety was compromised as a result.

There's still the little matter about the hoax letter with suspicious white powder sent in the mail. That's a federal crime, and based on the years the FL fake bomber got in prison, if Barr/Wray/anybody with an ounce of integrity would investigate and prosecute, that's the way to put the hoaxster in prison.

[Mike Mercury]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Yes, your honor, I saw Jack Ruby gun down Oswald.

That's evidence, but not proven guilty in a court. DAB is right, we are innocent until proven guilty....in court.

Smollett copped a plea deal; no "trial" was necessary.

the office reached a deal with Smollett's defense team in which prosecutors dropped the charges upon Smollett performing 16 hours of community service and forfeiting his $10,000 bond.

= guilty.

[ZipZap]

They need to get the DA on the stand under oath...

[DAB]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Yes, your honor, I saw Jack Ruby gun down Oswald.

That's evidence, but not proven guilty in a court. DAB is right, we are innocent until proven guilty....in court. The PD would have a better argument suing the DA's office for the cost of the investigation. Truly, Chicago area Trump supporters who own MAGA hats would have a better cause of action, as they were victims of the hoax, and their safety was compromised as a result.

There's still the little matter about the hoax letter with suspicious white powder sent in the mail. That's a federal crime, and based on the years the FL fake bomber got in prison, if Barr/Wray/anybody with an ounce of integrity would investigate and prosecute, that's the way to put the hoaxster in prison.

in this example, because Oswald was killed before a trial, he was never found guilty by a court of law. the Warren report found that he did it, but his legal record shows no conviction.

it might be distasteful, but that's the way the law works. if you are accused, you have a right to a fair trial. you can confront your accusers. if you die before that happens, you cannot be found guilty.

[Nox]

Originally Posted by DAB

in this example, because Oswald was killed before a trial, he was never found guilty by a court of law. the Warren report found that he did it, but his legal record shows no conviction.

it might be distasteful, but that's the way the law works. if you are accused, you have a right to a fair trial. you can confront your accusers. if you die before that happens, you cannot be found guilty.

Adolph Hitler was never found guilty of any war crimes. Osama Bin Ladin was never found guilty of any terrorist crimes.

[69camfrk]

Originally Posted by Nox

Adolph Hitler was never found guilty of any war crimes. Osama Bin Ladin was never found guilty of any terrorist crimes.

Yup....

[Shrike6]

You DO know that there is a difference in not being found guilty, and being innocent.