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Old 12-09-2020, 4:47pm   #1
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Texas bill to strike out parts of Castle Doctrine

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In Texas, State Representative Terry Meza (D-Irving) has introduced HB196. Her bill would repeal the state's "castle doctrine." This doctrine allows a homeowner to use deadly force against an armed intruder who breaks into his home.

"I'm not saying that stealing is okay," Meza explained. "All I'm saying is that it doesn't warrant a death penalty. Thieves only carry weapons for self-protection and to provide the householder an incentive to cooperate. They just want to get their loot and get away. When the resident tries to resist is when people get hurt. If only one side is armed fewer people will be killed."
Meza was quick to reassure that her bill "would not totally prevent homeowners from defending themselves."

"Under the new law the homeowner's obligation is to flee the home at the first sign of intrusion. If fleeing is not possible he must cooperate with the intruder. But if violence breaks out it is the homeowner's responsibility to make sure no one gets hurt. The best way to achieve this is to use the minimum non-lethal force possible because intruders will be able to sue for any injuries they receive at the hands of the homeowner."

"In most instances the thief needs the money more than the homeowner does," Meza reasoned. "The homeowner's insurance will reimburse his losses. On balance, the transfer of property is likely to lead to a more equitable distribution of wealth. If my bill can help make this transfer a peaceful one so much the better."


87(R) HB 196 - Introduced version - Bill Text

https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87...l/HB00196I.htm
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How stupid is this proposal? Someone breaks into MY HOUSE and I am supposed to COMPLY with the CRIMINAL? WTF?

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That can’t be serious. No politician is that stupid.
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Oh, but they are. It's always some libtard from Dallas, Houston, or Austin. Bill stands about a snowballs chance in hell since the Pubs control House & Senate and any demos from a rural area always vote with the Pubs on gun bills.
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That can’t be serious. No politician is that stupid.
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The criminals only carry weapons to protect themselves... Lol.
Wish she'd get car jacked.
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The criminals only carry weapons to protect themselves... Lol.
Wish she'd get car jacked.
Or has a home invasion
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The hundreds of replies to her Twitter post about this are hilarious.
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The criminals only carry weapons to protect themselves... Lol.
Wish she'd get car jacked.
So it is OK for criminals to carry weapons to protect themselves while committing crimes, but it is not OK for homeowners to use weapons to prevent a crime from being committed? What am I missing?
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I saw that. I'm still not convinced this isn't just a very realistic Babylon Bee article.
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That can’t be serious. No politician is that stupid.



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That can’t be serious. No politician is that stupid.
A number of the left wing nut jobs are. If a idiot braks into my house it's shoot first ask questions later.
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Her bill would repeal the state's "castle doctrine." This doctrine allows a homeowner to use deadly force against an armed intruder who breaks into his home.
killing one of their voters... that's what they want to stop. If the thug is dead, then he can't vot... uhh... never mind (I forgot that dead people can still vote).
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I saw that. I'm still not convinced this isn't just a very realistic Babylon Bee article.
Not from BB, check link on bottom of OP
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So it is OK for criminals to carry weapons to protect themselves while committing crimes, but it is not OK for homeowners to use weapons to prevent a crime from being committed? What am I missing?
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The criminals only carry weapons to protect themselves... Lol.
Wish she'd get car jacked.
I'd like to read about her house being broken into, too, in the dead of the night while she's asleep.
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