His mother should have swallowed him.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Strats-N-Vettes

I'd say globally 2-5% is pretty accurate.

This defiance is more common now, adults are weaker, and the internet allows kids to see other kids being defiant.
Kids learn to report parents for being "strict" that in their minds is "abuse", then CPS or schools get involved and side with the children, and the kids know it.


And except for the 2 to 5% mentioned above; this is a learned behavior.

This is absolutely true. We've raised a few generations of kids to understand that THEY have the power not the parents/teachers/other adults. We've raised kids to feel that they are untouchable, then, when they grow up and lose that shield of protection, reality sets in.

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

This is absolutely true. We've raised a few generations of kids to understand that THEY have the power not the parents/teachers/other adults. We've raised kids to feel that they are untouchable, then, when they grow up and lose that shield of protection, reality sets in.

If I had a kid and he behaved like that little asshole I'd beat 'em anyway and go to jail - just to get away from the little puke.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by Thomas

If I had a kid and he behaved like that little asshole I'd beat 'em anyway and go to jail - just to get away from the little puke.

Military Boarding School FTW.

[Iron Chef]

Originally Posted by snide

And if you didn't use those words, you got a backhand. I've tried to instill manners in my boys. However, with my younger son, his mother doesn't believe in manners, she's offended by manners. But, he does use his manners when he is with me.

My kids both grew up to be very respectful, but I never insisted (nor did their mother) that they say "Yes sir/Yes ma'am" to us. Yes Dad/Mom was fine. This (among so many other things about me) irritated my military in-laws. My ex MIL asked me why I didn't insist on it and I said to her "Because I'm their father, not their commanding officer. There's a difference, and I find nothing disrespectful about calling me Dad." Outside the home, different story.

Of course, the subservient wonder that she was totally locked up and didn't know how answer.

Oh...and I'd have had the snot beat out of me hourly if I acted like that.

[Giraffe (He/Him)]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

My kids both grew up to be very respectful, but I never insisted (nor did their mother) that they say "Yes sir/Yes ma'am" to us. Yes Dad/Mom was fine. This (among so many other things about me) irritated my military in-laws. My ex MIL asked me why I didn't insist on it and I said to her "Because I'm their father, not their commanding officer.



Oh...and I'd have had the snot beat out of me hourly if I acted like that.

Please and thank you? Without a DOUBT. But Sir and Ma'am? Nope.

My mother had absolutely ZERO tolerance for disrespect. She was worse than my father in that respect by a W I D E margin. But if you did manage to hit the old man's limit? Holy hell you'd better have swift feet.