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Old 03-19-2017, 11:59am   #1
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Default So as my student and I were zipping down the backstretch
Yesterday at something north of 100 I asked him why the "BRAKE" idiot light was on. "Oh, that's the wear indicator."

YA THINK?
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idiot light for idiot driver?
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Student? Clearly, I don't have your patience.
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Clearly you're not teaching them right.
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Student? Clearly, I don't have your patience.
It can be an adventure for sure, I look the car over and definitely check brake pads ( if I can see them) before getting in the right seat. For nooBs, I always drive the first 2 laps just to feel the car out. But I never go over 5/10 in someone else's car. It can act totally different under heavy braking and acceleration.
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It can be an adventure for sure, I look the car over and definitely check brake pads ( if I can see them) before getting in the right seat.
That is now gonna be part of my drill.
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That is now gonna be part of my drill.
Being it's your ass in the seat, one of those inspection cameras may be a very good investment. They have mirrors to get a 90* view from the lens.

As nasty as that brake pad looks, I guess it's safe to assume the rotors were toast too
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Being it's your ass in the seat, one of those inspection cameras may be a very good investment. They have mirrors to get a 90* view from the lens.

As nasty as that brake pad looks, I guess it's safe to assume the rotors were toast too
Surprisingly not. That was my downfall. I always looked at a student's rotors for damage, never went to the effort to try to see the pads.
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Surprisingly not. That was my downfall. I always looked at a student's rotors for damage, never went to the effort to try to see the pads.
Amazing

I went to ebay to see what was available for digital inspection cameras and came across this for an Android phone.

5.5mm Digital 2m USB For Android Phone Endoscope Inspection Waterproof Camera | eBay

$11 shipped

I used a Dewalt to inspect the inside of the gas tank on my Olds hit and miss engine and it worked well. They are in the $300 range
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Surprisingly not. That was my downfall. I always looked at a student's rotors for damage, never went to the effort to try to see the pads.
Some are impossible to see. For Summit Point, their "inspection" is extremely
suspect. I'm going to get one of those inspection cameras. That's an awesome idea.
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My introduction goes as follows- why are you here ? Where did you have your car inspected, any modifications, what is your lug torque setting ? All the while I am walking around the car looking at each wheel. I tug on the front wheels looking for any play. As soon as I get inside, check for any loose items. Especially check the back seats as those will come and make your day in the worst corner.
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Brakes? What brakes?
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Brakes? What brakes?
Brakes are for pussies, you use the other cars to bounce around the corners, everybody knows that.
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Sadly, I've seen worse. Some people should not be allowed to drive.
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Just one of the reasons I will not be right-seat on a track.
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Speaking of brakes and instructing, one of my instructor buddies got the ride of his life last Friday. Old modified C4 blew a brake hose in the brake zone for turn one at Summit Point. My student and I were 2 cars back.
There is two things you can do at turn 1. Go straight and end up on the skidpad, or go through the gravel trap and hopefully scrub off enough speed not to hit the wall.
Student chose to go straight and didn't make it all the way through the skid pad entrance. Clipped the tire wall with his right rear quarter panel. Both student and instructor were fine.

Lesson here is : Get to the track early and pick your student based on the car. I was in a brand new BMW M2.
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