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Old 06-06-2021, 8:55pm   #41
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It’s true that around 13 per cent of Americans are black, according to the latest estimates from the US Census Bureau.

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides.................
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It’s true that around 13 per cent of Americans are black, according to the latest estimates from the US Census Bureau.

And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides.................
Only half of that 13% are male. So 52% are committed by less than 7% of the population.

And if someone can't see that as an issue...
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Only half of that 13% are male. So 52% are committed by less than 7% of the population.

And if someone can't see that as an issue...
The Burn Loot Murder crowd (aka The Dead Thug Worship Society) will never be confused with the sharper pencils in the box. They are incapable of critical thinking, totally dependent on whatever garbage the looney left shoves down their throats.
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Only half of that 13% are male. So 52% are committed by less than 7% of the population.

And if someone can't see that as an issue...

Bingo.

Last I checked, around ~98% (IIRC) of homicides are committed by males.

So black males, about 6-7% of the population, commit over half of the entire nation's homicides.

And nobody sees this as an issue? That should be hypothesized and maybe some solutions to try to fix it?

We should just bury heads like ostriches? Ok...
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Bingo.

Last I checked, around ~98% (IIRC) of homicides are committed by males.

So black males, about 6-7% of the population, commit over half of the entire nation's homicides.

And nobody sees this as an issue? That should be hypothesized and maybe some solutions to try to fix it?

We should just bury heads like ostriches? Ok...
And don’t forget you can probably eliminate the young and old males from the bunch and the real number is probably more like 4-5 percent tops.
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"Crime is crime?"

The point is, violent crime (shootings) in the US is off the charts. People of all ages are being shot. And,Young Blacks are doing it. If you don't beleive it, you either are not reading your local news or your local news is not telling you about it.

It is near a tipping point. Look at FBI crime statistics by race.
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Bingo.

Last I checked, around ~98% (IIRC) of homicides are committed by males.

So black males, about 6-7% of the population, commit over half of the entire nation's homicides.

And nobody sees this as an issue? That should be hypothesized and maybe some solutions to try to fix it?

We should just bury heads like ostriches? Ok...
But, but, but, it's the guns that kill black people. No, wait, it's white cops that kill black people. No, wait. Whut?
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That was the old reason. Now he has a new reason.
What is the new reason?
I can't keep up.
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Really tired of hearing how black women are the pillars of the community for raising their children while single. It's clear these single parents are doing horrifically bad job raising kids. Every child comes into the world unformed in it's behavior, they learn for the older around them. Instead of putting these idiots on a pedestal they should be holding the parents responsible too. Single or not.
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Really tired of hearing how black women are the pillars of the community for raising their children while single. It's clear these single parents are doing horrifically bad job raising kids. Every child comes into the world unformed in it's behavior, they learn for the older around them. Instead of putting these idiots on a pedestal they should be holding the parents responsible too. Single or not.
With a lot of the ghetto class blacks its not the traditional parent relationship. It boils down to a meeting between a sperm donor and baby factory. Get more welfare that way.
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gotta ask…. Who is worse?

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At least Porter's antics are entertaining...
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Ok. Serious post.

Am I the only one who sees that 95%+ of serious crimes are committed by blacks?

Why is this?
Why can't it be discussed?
When will the violence end?
Is anybody else tired of this?
Why isn't it ever ever ever discussed in a serious way?

I'm beginning to think this country is done. I mean, how can you have all these crimes and not discuss the cause?

The examples are endless. Just yesterday, a guy robbed a black Dunkin Donuts manager in Philly. After she gave up the money, he then shot her. Story below.


43 people were shot in Chicago this weekend. 43 people!!! In one weekend!!! Should we just blame it on white supremacists?

A family on vacation in St. Louis were shot while driving down the highway. The suspects were arrested. Media says "no word on their identity". Righttttt.

And on and on and on.

So is this ever going to be talked about? Why this keeps happening? Or it'll remain a cancer and we'll just sweep it under the rug until the rug is brushing up against the ceiling fan?

This is, btw, not saying everybody who is black is a criminal. That would be insanity and is factually incorrect. It's not correct at all.

But why is it that blacks are 14% of the US population and are probably responsible for 80%+ of serious felonies?

It's really becoming disturbing. And our pols response to this? "White supremacists are the problem".



https://www.ksdk.com/mobile/article/...3-18dad90af181


https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2...e-gun-violence


https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...orker/2838258/
You're in luck, as I'm in the midst of conducting a meta-analysis on this very topic as part of an effort to teach myself R. The causes are varied and complex, but do not in any way lead to the conclusion that being black makes one commit more serious crimes, or be more likely to commit them. And, no, Blacks in the U.S. are not responsible for 95+% of "serious" crimes (a vague term to begin with).

The "Black = violent criminal" myth, like the "female wage gap" and "firearms = homicides" myths, stems largely from a gross inability for the majority of the population to understand math, much less basic to advanced statistical concepts.

The "13=52" rallying cry of racists is a raw reference to two data points--the percent of the population made up of Blacks and the percent of homicides committed by Blacks. (And if you think "13%=52%" is bad, wait until you learn that "0.24% = 5.8%". That's the percent of the population made up of Cops vs the percent of homicides committed by Cops.) But this ignores the great many causal factors that lead to this result. Let's start at the beginning…

We know that poverty is "sticky" in that people who are born into poverty are likely to still be impoverished when they have children. Violent and property crimes, due to a variety of economic factors, are more likely to be committed by those who are poor or impoverished. While Europe gets to be all self-righteous about their lower homicide and poverty rates, they also callously tossed aside their slave colonies as separate nations, and now get to conveniently exclude them from their national statistics. The U.S., on the other hand, had largely retained our enslaved population within our borders following the Civil War. And though we rightfully banned slavery, things didn't magically become easy for Blacks overnight. Many decades of racism, anti-Black legislation, and other factors ensured that poverty and myths about them would remain in place for the vast majority of their population for a very long time. There were exceptions, but outliers don't disprove trends.

Fast forward to more modern times and, while much progress has been made, it's only been a few generations and there are still other factors in play. As someone else correctly pointed out, the likelihood that one will commit homicide is strongly correlated with being raised by a single mother. Economics plays a role here as well, but also:
- Blacks are typically given longer prison sentences for equal crimes
- Blacks are more likely to be falsely imprisoned for a crime they didn't commit
- They suffer from higher conviction rates for equal crimes
- The simple fact that city populations are proportionately more Black than rural populations. Cities naturally have higher violent crime rates due to a higher density of stressors and contacts, yielding more opportunities for things to go wrong between individuals, that are also more likely to go wrong.

These factors above, combined with others, results in many Black children being raised without fathers. That lack of income source and male guidance, unsurprisingly, perpetuates cycles of poverty and violence.

There are also police-related impacts. For instance, a police officer is nearly 3,000 times more likely to kill a Black person than a Black person is to kill a police officer. Unsurprisingly, this leads to the Black community being less likely to want to call the Police, who are by far the most violent group in America. We also have a tendency for a large part of the White population to view citizens as subservient to the Government, and that the life of a police officer (who is human) is more valuable than the life of the Black person that officer kills (who is also human)--this feeds back into the false belief that Blacks deserve to be treated poorly.

We also have the bi-partisan War on Drugs, a colossal failure and waste of money. The primarily-White purchasers are given light sentences and offers of treatment, whereas the primarily-Black and -Hispanic sellers and transporters of the product are given harsh sentences and often killed, despite both groups being equally responsible for the drug trade. Simple legalization without draconian taxation would eliminate most of this issue.

Finally, there's a tendency for racists to pretend that defensive firearm usage is only something that White people do. Every Black shooting, in their mind, is yet another example of "Black violence" whereas a White person shooting someone to death to defend himself is "exercising his Constitutional rights".
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Regardless of color.. Don't fukin commit crimes if don't want to be shot in the ass and goto jail.
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You're in luck, as I'm in the midst of conducting a meta-analysis on this very topic as part of an effort to teach myself R. The causes are varied and complex, but do not in any way lead to the conclusion that being black makes one commit more serious crimes, or be more likely to commit them. And, no, Blacks in the U.S. are not responsible for 95+% of "serious" crimes (a vague term to begin with).

The "Black = violent criminal" myth, like the "female wage gap" and "firearms = homicides" myths, stems largely from a gross inability for the majority of the population to understand math, much less basic to advanced statistical concepts.

The "13=52" rallying cry of racists is a raw reference to two data points--the percent of the population made up of Blacks and the percent of homicides committed by Blacks. (And if you think "13%=52%" is bad, wait until you learn that "0.24% = 5.8%". That's the percent of the population made up of Cops vs the percent of homicides committed by Cops.) But this ignores the great many causal factors that lead to this result. Let's start at the beginning…

We know that poverty is "sticky" in that people who are born into poverty are likely to still be impoverished when they have children. Violent and property crimes, due to a variety of economic factors, are more likely to be committed by those who are poor or impoverished. While Europe gets to be all self-righteous about their lower homicide and poverty rates, they also callously tossed aside their slave colonies as separate nations, and now get to conveniently exclude them from their national statistics. The U.S., on the other hand, had largely retained our enslaved population within our borders following the Civil War. And though we rightfully banned slavery, things didn't magically become easy for Blacks overnight. Many decades of racism, anti-Black legislation, and other factors ensured that poverty and myths about them would remain in place for the vast majority of their population for a very long time. There were exceptions, but outliers don't disprove trends.

Fast forward to more modern times and, while much progress has been made, it's only been a few generations and there are still other factors in play. As someone else correctly pointed out, the likelihood that one will commit homicide is strongly correlated with being raised by a single mother. Economics plays a role here as well, but also:
- Blacks are typically given longer prison sentences for equal crimes
- Blacks are more likely to be falsely imprisoned for a crime they didn't commit
- They suffer from higher conviction rates for equal crimes
- The simple fact that city populations are proportionately more Black than rural populations. Cities naturally have higher violent crime rates due to a higher density of stressors and contacts, yielding more opportunities for things to go wrong between individuals, that are also more likely to go wrong.

These factors above, combined with others, results in many Black children being raised without fathers. That lack of income source and male guidance, unsurprisingly, perpetuates cycles of poverty and violence.

There are also police-related impacts. For instance, a police officer is nearly 3,000 times more likely to kill a Black person than a Black person is to kill a police officer. Unsurprisingly, this leads to the Black community being less likely to want to call the Police, who are by far the most violent group in America. We also have a tendency for a large part of the White population to view citizens as subservient to the Government, and that the life of a police officer (who is human) is more valuable than the life of the Black person that officer kills (who is also human)--this feeds back into the false belief that Blacks deserve to be treated poorly.

We also have the bi-partisan War on Drugs, a colossal failure and waste of money. The primarily-White purchasers are given light sentences and offers of treatment, whereas the primarily-Black and -Hispanic sellers and transporters of the product are given harsh sentences and often killed, despite both groups being equally responsible for the drug trade. Simple legalization without draconian taxation would eliminate most of this issue.

Finally, there's a tendency for racists to pretend that defensive firearm usage is only something that White people do. Every Black shooting, in their mind, is yet another example of "Black violence" whereas a White person shooting someone to death to defend himself is "exercising his Constitutional rights".
Fair enough. I present two counterpoints. Please explain.

1. You mentioned poverty of blacks is a big cause of black crime/violence. Would you say most Jews came over to the US over the past century with lots of money?

My family immigrated from Belorussia (Belarus). Part of them in the 1890's and the other half after The Holocaust (the few that hadn't been gassed to death). ALL of them came over dirt poor. They settled in Jewish neighborhoods in Boston and NYC were the MAJORITY of the Jewish immigrants were dirt poor. They experienced widespread antisemitism. From the time they immigrated (1890's) all the way through the 1960's-1970's. Yet, they all studied hard, worked sheet jobs, and got ahead. Not turned to crime despite no opportunity and being poor.

My grandfather got a PhD in 1937. If you're not aware, in 1937, a PhD was a VERY big deal. I'll say less than 0.01% of the population had a PhD back then.

He was turned down for multiple professor positions at multiple universities in Philly, Boston, and NYC. Multiple times, they flat out told him "We have no place for another Jew". Dead serious. Can you get much more antisemitic?

So he worked even harder to take a low level HS principal position (back in the 1940's--a HS principal made crap money--this was before public sector unions). My family lived at the "bottom of the barrel". They were poor as F. Having steak once each 3-4 months was a dam delicacy.

Despite this, everybody in my family worked hard. None had kids at age 15. They ended up graduating from Harvard, Stanford, Berkeley, and NYU and all made something of themselves.

So tell me again how blacks were treated "disproportionately bad" after the Civil Rights Act and couldn't get ahead the same way my Jewish family did?

2. You mentioned how bad cops are. Agreed there are alot of bad apples behind the blue. But do you think a decent number of them go rogue from dealing with sheet bags all day, every day? Is there any possibility?

3. I'm adding a point. Many Asians come to the US poor as F. From Vietnam, Laos, etc. How come they aren't represented in the same way blacks are as far as crime statistics? Or are they simply "not discriminated against"? I'd make the argument being Asian is immensely harder than being black over the past 20+ years in the US.
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Regardless of color.. Don't fukin commit crimes if don't want to be shot in the ass and goto jail.
On the one hand, yes, understanding cause and effect is important. But on the other hand, legality is not the same thing as morality, ethics, or natural rights. See: 1930s-1940s Germany. Our country was founded by great people who nonetheless destroyed businesses, looted, killed, sacked homes, and resisted those who, in modern parlance, would be called "law enforcement officers". They were smart enough to recognize that liberty and morality were more important than the law. And once we gained our freedom from England, we did not have state-controlled law enforcement the way we do today because they knew that government oppression is very real, and very bad for individual liberty.

I'm super curious to see if the people who keep droning the "just obey the law if you don't want to get hurt" concept still feel the same way when the left finally manages to push through firearms confiscation. Well...more firearms confiscation.

"It's the law, bro, don't fight back! Just give them your guns!"

The right certainly proved on January 6th that they don't care about laws. Except when it's Black people disobeying.

And even when police kill Black people who literally did nothing wrong or illegal, bootlickers still demonstrate a callous disregard for their lives. For those types, their entire world view is that people should be subservient to the government--that is, right up until the government does something that affects them personally.
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