Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses !

[zsr22]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

I would think it's a hydraulic system that should at least have a modicum of reverse force. I keep hearing "propulsion issue", but I'm really wondering if the whole system just failed.

They were having problems with it and when they called tech support, Steve in India suggested to reboot the system. That's why the lights went out.

[Bill]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/maj...16?welcomeuser

Coast Guard Suspends Search for 6 Missing, Presume Dead After Baltimore Bridge Collapse
The cargo ship lost power, issued a mayday call moments before crashing into the bridge.
By Caden Pearson
| Published
Mar 26, 2024

[zsr22]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Of course.

[Vandelay Industries]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

https://twitter.com/Brick_Suit/statu...72098189656070

No train tracks on that bridge, but OK, sure, Jan.

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[vettemed]

****in'
Jelly
Brain

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

All true. A Yaddie driveway rock would have stopped it.

No, but this would have:

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by ZipZap

I would think it's a hydraulic system that should at least have a modicum of reverse force. I keep hearing "propulsion issue", but I'm really wondering if the whole system just failed.

There's speculation that contaminated fuel was a huge part of the problem. It makes sense, but there's no way to tell right now.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/safety-in...ridge-collapse

[LATB]

My money is on DEI.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by LATB

I bet that he has never been on that bridge. And I can almost guarantee that if he had he was not driving.

Next tale will be he and his son, crackhead, built that bridge.

[Onebadcad]

sec buttplug recent statement is he thinks the ship hit the bridge with tremendous force.

[Aerovette]

Interesting that the power poles in that waterway appear to have fairly robust islands with walls that look like they are intended to deflect a vessel.

Power line towers - Yes
Bridge - No

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by Aerovette

Interesting that the power poles in that waterway appear to have fairly robust islands with walls that look like they are intended to deflect a vessel.

Power line towers - Yes
Bridge - No

[6spdC6]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Look at the size of the "Island' Vs the ship. I would not bet my life savings saying the "island" would win. Hit it straight on it might deflect, hit it on a angel its going to be seriously hurt!

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by 6spdC6

Look at the size of the "Island' Vs the ship. I would not bet my life savings saying the "island" would win. Hit it straight on it might deflect, hit it on a angel its going to be seriously hurt!

I agree with you, very poor engineering and design.

The ones that surround The Sunshine Skyway are MUCH MORE adequate to withstand a ship's ramming.

I am not big on gov spending my money, but it should be standard to have sufficient bumpers and island around bridge spans, all lacking spans can be retrofitted.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by 6spdC6

Look at the size of the "Island' Vs the ship. I would not bet my life savings saying the "island" would win. Hit it straight on it might deflect, hit it on a angel its going to be seriously hurt!

The point I was making is that you can see the supports for the bridge and they have essentially nothing around them. Lives are at stake on a bridge, not a cell tower or power line tower. It's the airbag argument. "What if it doesn't work?". Well, what if it does? It's better than doing nothing.

[6spdC6]

Originally Posted by Aerovette

The point I was making is that you can see the supports for the bridge and they have essentially nothing around them. Lives are at stake on a bridge, not a cell tower or power line tower. It's the airbag argument. "What if it doesn't work?". Well, what if it does? It's better than doing nothing.

Unfornituely you just mentioned a very real part of engineering and law making, its called feel good legislation. (makes a lot of noise and accomplishes nothing substantial!)

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by Aerovette

The point I was making is that you can see the supports for the bridge and they have essentially nothing around them. Lives are at stake on a bridge, not a cell tower or power line tower. It's the airbag argument. "What if it doesn't work?". Well, what if it does? It's better than doing nothing.

The first Sunshine Skyway had no bumpers and the span was tight.
One a very foggy morning it got plowed, would never have happened if the design was better.

YouTube

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by 6spdC6

Unfornituely you just mentioned a very real part of engineering and law making, its called feel good legislation. (makes a lot of noise and accomplishes nothing substantial!)

I'm making the assumption that the cell tower and power people are protecting their assets and are not too concerned with the ships or much else. I can't say whether those bumpers are legislated or whether they did it for themselves.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Aerovette

I'm making the assumption that the cell tower and power people are protecting their assets and are not too concerned with the ships or much else. I can't say whether those bumpers are legislated or whether they did it for themselves.

Most likely their decision to protect their assets. It's questionable whether they would stand up to a 90,000 ton ship moving at 9 mph.

[Aerovette]

I guess I know why my Amazon order is late.