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Old 02-22-2011, 2:22pm   #41
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I was more wondering if Gov. Walker is gonna sell Wisconsin to private industry like Koch who needs to fire employees to make $11 Billion instead of $10.9 Billion and to collect more tax breaks ...
Texas governor Rick Perry tried to build and lease to a Spanish company a NAFTA toll road that Texans didn't want. We (so far) have stopped the toll road, but not before he blew $ 60 million Texas tax dollars trying to ram the deal down our throats.

Seems like Mitch Daniels in Indiana leased some of his toll roads to the same Spanish company, Cinta. This is wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to begin.

As to privatization in general, if the Koch brothers can pick up the trash cheaper than public employees, then it would be better for the taxpayers to let them do it. This is what competition is all about. I have to be cheaper than my competitor and/or provide a better product, or I go out of business and lose my job, in addition to my employees losing their jobs.

There are many things my little burb contracts out to private companies, with the lowest legitimate bid getting the job. No problems with that. I want the best bang for my buck as a taxpayer, and I don't want to pay any more than I have to to get the minimum level of service I want.
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Texas governor Rick Perry tried to build and lease to a Spanish company a NAFTA toll road that Texans didn't want. We (so far) have stopped the toll road, but not before he blew $ 60 million Texas tax dollars trying to ram the deal down our throats.

Seems like Mitch Daniels in Indiana leased some of his toll roads to the same Spanish company, Cinta. This is wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to begin.

As to privatization in general, if the Koch brothers can pick up the trash cheaper than public employees, then it would be better for the taxpayers to let them do it. This is what competition is all about. I have to be cheaper than my competitor and/or provide a better product, or I go out of business and lose my job, in addition to my employees losing their jobs.

There are many things my little burb contracts out to private companies, with the lowest legitimate bid getting the job. No problems with that. I want the best bang for my buck as a taxpayer, and I don't want to pay any more than I have to to get the minimum level of service I want.
I see .. so the idea is private co.'s charging more to the individual than taxes and then they can decide whether or not you're *entitled* to *excellent* services especially on your ability to pay when America is at 9% unemployment ...

Let me guess, Paulie thought of that one ...
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I see .. so the idea is private co.'s charging more to the individual than taxes and then they can decide whether or not you're *entitled* to *excellent* services especially on your ability to pay when America is at 9% unemployment ...


The idea is that if state workers can fix a pothole for $ 100 and a private contractor can fix the same pothole for $ 90, then the private contractor should be tasked with fixing the pothole.

If the private contractor bids $ 110 to fix the pothole, then letting state employees do it for $ 100 makes sense.

Competition. Free enterprise. Lowest bidder that can perform the work properly gets the job, just like my business.


I don't get to charge more to my customers and have a job for life just because I have been working for them a long time. Every day, I have to keep proving myself. If I get complacent and lazy, or charge too much, my customers find someone else to do their work.
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The idea is that if state workers can fix a pothole for $ 100 and a private contractor can fix the same pothole for $ 90, then the private contractor should be tasked with fixing the pothole.

If the private contractor bids $ 110 to fix the pothole, then letting state employees do it for $ 100 makes sense.

Competition. Free enterprise. Lowest bidder that can perform the work properly gets the job, just like my business.


I don't get to charge more to my customers and have a job for life just because I have been working for them a long time. Every day, I have to keep proving myself. If I get complacent and lazy, or charge too much, my customers find someone else to do their work.
That sounds like Reaganomics ... you know, the *new* economics because the Bush Tax Cuts while waging wars and de-regulating the financial system worked out so well that right-wingers ... especially CFPR&C ... will ban you for suggesting they/it existed ...
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That sounds like Reaganomics ... you know, the *new* economics because the Bush Tax Cuts while waging wars and de-regulating the finacial system worked out so well that right-wingers ... especially CFPR&C ... will ban you for suggesting they existed ...
it also sounds like an excellent way to replace Americans with illegals that will work for a pittance.
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it also sounds like an excellent way to replace Americans with illegals that will work for a pittance.
Once you understand and accept into your heart that Reagan (neocons) & George Washingon (Tea Party) were the greatest presidents evar you wil have re-educated yourself into the proper indoctrination and all will be well ..

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Once you understand and accept into your heart that Reagan (neocons) & George Washingon (Tea Party) were the greatest presidents evar you wil have re-educated yourself into the proper indoctrination and all will be well ..

sounds "religious"
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I was more wondering if Gov. Walker is gonna sell Wisconsin to private industry like Koch who needs to fire employees to make $11 Billion instead of $10.9 Billion and to collect more tax breaks ...
Do you have any evidence that Walker is planning to do that? If so please link us up.
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Do you have any evidence that Walker is planning to do that? If so please link us up.
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They laid off people and they are now trying to take over Wisconson?

You do realize that people are in buiness to make a profit?
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Officials at Georgia-Pacific said the company is laying off 158 workers at its Day Street plant because out-of-date equipment at the facility is being replaced with newer, more-efficient equipment.

The company said much of the new, papermaking equipment will be automated.
Malach tells FOX 11 that the layoffs are not because of a drop in demand.
In fact, Malach said demand is high for the bath tissue and napkins manufactured at the plant.
It sucks to be those people but you either constantly cut costs or improve efficiency or you are run out of business by someone who does.

And you do realize that the public employee unions contributed massively to his opponent?
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I say the more people the GOP puts in the Unemployment Line, the more Votes for the Democrats.

Brilliant
Ummm... they're already voting democrat.
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Those evil Koch brothers spent 43K in the last cycle. Bad Evil Koch brothers.

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Government unions in Wisconsin perfectly match the definition of "special interests," a term Obama often invokes. Four of the top six Wisconsin contributors to the 2010 elections were labor unions, with the state's teachers union giving $119,342 and the Wisconsin chapter of the American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees spending $83,888. The teachers union gave 96 percent of its money to Democrats, while Wisconsin AFSCME gave Democrats every penny.

Government unions spent $573,868 on Wisconsin's 2010 elections -- almost all of it going to Democrats -- while government employees spent another half million, with most going to Democrats.
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And the Union supported politicians lost. Now they get what the deserve.

A does of reality.
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Those evil Koch brothers spent 43K in the last cycle. Bad Evil Koch brothers.

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And the Union supported politicians lost. Now they get what the deserve.

A does of reality.
Can you imagine that ? ... multi-billionaires investing $43K in a political/election cycle to net you billions later ... nice.
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Can you imagine that ? ... multi-billionaires investing $43K in a political/election cycle to net you billions later ... nice.
I wonder why he didn't show us who the top contributor was?
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I wonder why he didn't show us who the top contributor was?
Hopefully hit'n'run CFPR&C'r Will will impress us with a nice graph of all the major playing *contributors* ...
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I wonder why he didn't show us who the top contributor was?
Who cares?

How much money was contributed to a campaign is irrelevant compared to the count of votes.
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Who cares?

How much money was contributed to a campaign is irrelevant compared to the count of votes.
You think so ... then how do you explain the SCOTUS departing from *precedent* in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission where the Roberts Court ruled unconstitutional the ban on corporate treasury funding of independent political campaigns ?
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You think so ... then how do you explain the SCOTUS departing from *precedent* in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission where the Roberts Court ruled unconstitutional the ban on corporate treasury funding of independent political campaigns ?
Nothing ado with contributing, everything to do with media.
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