Accidental Discharge

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

One of the many reasons I do not support open carry laws.

Why / If an idiot wants to shoot himself-so what ? Kind of like not supporting cars over 300 HP because the owner "might" speed.

[Joecooool]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

Why / If an idiot wants to shoot himself-so what ? Kind of like not supporting cars over 300 HP because the owner "might" speed.

I'm not worried about someone accidentally shooting themselves, I'm worried about someone accidentally shooting me.

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

I'm not worried about someone accidentally shooting themselves, I'm worried about someone accidentally shooting me.

Then shoot them first. Problem solved.

[Will]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

I'm not worried about someone accidentally shooting themselves, I'm worried about someone accidentally shooting me.

What statistics do you have that show this is more likely with open carry than concealed?

(p.s. someone is statistically more likely to accidentally kill you with their car. You should probably become a shut-in hermit and have everything delivered.)

[Uncle Pervey]

Originally Posted by Will

What statistics do you have that show this is more likely with open carry than concealed?

(p.s. someone is statistically more likely to accidentally kill you with their car. You should probably become a shut-in hermit and have everything delivered.)

You are much more likely to die from your own doctor treating you than you are to die from any sort of gunshot wound, accidental or purposeful murder attempt. Over 100,000 people in the US each year die from medical accidents.

Source: http://www.cancure.org/medical_errors.htm

[repo]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

I'm not worried about someone accidentally shooting themselves, I'm worried about someone accidentally shooting me.

If someone shoots at you, it won't be an accident.

[Sea Six]

Originally Posted by Joecooool

One of the many reasons I do not support open carry laws.

Joe, open (or concealed) carry has absolutely nothing to do with what happened.

Face it... it's your dislike of guns that drives you to make posts like this one above.

[1911fool]

who had #19 in the pool?

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by repo

If someone shoots at you, it won't be an accident.

[Vette Jockey]

Originally Posted by DJ_Critterus

that may be true, but I thinknot having any kind of safety to be an issue. Yeah, I know Glock has the internal safety mechanisms, but I want one more layer of protection to keep the gun from firing a round unless I pull the trigger on purpose.

There is no such thing as an accidental discharge, they are all negligent. The only exception would be a handgun using an "inertia firing pin",

The Glock has three internal safeties. I have investigated three negligent discharges with Glock’s. All three ended up with the Officer having their finger in the trigger. They all swore at first that their finger was no where near the trigger.

After inspection of the firearm, it was determined that there was nothing wrong with the pistol.

After careful interrogation, and once, a re-enactment with an unloaded Glock, it was determined that at sometime during the manipulation, the finger entered the trigger guard. In the re-enactment, the Officer’s finger entered the trigger as the weapon was entering the holster. No one was injured in any of these incidents.

As for an external safety, they become a problem of manipulation in extreme stress. The fine motor skills needed to manipulate a safety go out the window. I have seen many people during Simunitions Marking Cartridge Training, pull their firearm out of their holster when a threat presented itself, pull the trigger, and had nothing happen. They forgot to disengage the safety,

This of course, does not pertain to the individual that has the “Spinal Tuning” brought about by many manipulations/training or combat stress.
JMHO

[NB2K]

Originally Posted by Omega Man

That fat assed idiot needs to not have a worn out fag strap as a holster and he needs to lose for fukin weight if he plans on carrying a pistol on his side.

The cause here is the shitty holster and his fat ass rolling around pushing the gun down causing the shitty holster to hold the trigger while his twinkie roll pushes the gun. Same as pulling the trigger.

People like this scare me and should not be carrying anything more than a candy bar. You can tell by his size he knows how to do that.

But you missed the most obvious sign of his fail.

"My wife was driving..."

Men drive, women ride.

[Omega Man]

Originally Posted by NB2K

But you missed the most obvious sign of his fail.

"My wife was driving..."

Men drive, women ride.

TRUE!! He is also a queer, hiding under the auspices of marriage.

[Uncle Pervey]

Originally Posted by Omega Man

TRUE!! He is also a queer, hiding under the auspices of marriage.

Agree with the crazy mofo!

[Petew1971]

I thought this was a premature ejaculation thread

[Uri]

Originally Posted by Omega Man

That fat assed idiot needs to not have a worn out fag strap as a holster and he needs to lose for fukin weight if he plans on carrying a pistol on his side.

The cause here is the shitty holster and his fat ass rolling around pushing the gun down causing the shitty holster to hold the trigger while his twinkie roll pushes the gun. Same as pulling the trigger.

People like this scare me and should not be carrying anything more than a candy bar. You can tell by his size he knows how to do that.

No truer words...........

[high desert]

What a stupid fk. Someone needs to finish the job.

[Flatbush Harry]

Originally Posted by Scissors

I'm willing to bet that exactly 0 of them have "accidentally" discharged because the holster itself operated them while the safeties were engaged.

Actually, when I was doing my LEO thing, a moron had an installed trigger shoe on his Colt Gov't. while putting his pistol in his holster with the firearm loaded and cocked, thumb safety off (he didn't want to lose any time when he drew down). Of course, the holster was pressing on the shoe and when he compressed the grip safety to draw, he shot himself in the leg. I was delighted, as I was his target and he lay on the sidewalk screaming while I covered him with my .44 mag back-up loaded with Remmy mid-range .44 mag loads. The bus took him away, I puked in the street, my partner congratulated me for not shooting him and setting up a paperwork nightmare, and I went back to a more pinstriped, button-down collared and repp tie day job where carrying firearms were not de rigeur. While I did not follow up, I sincerely hope the shithead who precipitated my job search walks with a severe limp.

Cynically,

3aHryr, p*ssy for the last 29 years

PS- Skiz, there are more stupid ADs (otherwise referred to as gun stupidities than you can imagine and more than a few equipment-caused failures because many stupids believe they understand semi-autos). I am an NRA-certified instructor and spend a great deal of time pointing out how they happen. I also recommend all novices use revolvers and I, myself, who have had mil and LEO training, 57 years experience and have fired well over 250,000 rds with s-as, prefer a revolver when my life is on the line. That said, I have carried semi-autos on duty, qualified with them repeatedly, have more experience and training than most and trust any of my proven 1911s implicitly.

Harry, fairly seriously

[ft laud mike]

Originally Posted by Omega Man

That fat assed idiot needs to not have a worn out fag strap as a holster and he needs to lose for fukin weight if he plans on carrying a pistol on his side.

The cause here is the shitty holster and his fat ass rolling around pushing the gun down causing the shitty holster to hold the trigger while his twinkie roll pushes the gun. Same as pulling the trigger.

People like this scare me and should not be carrying anything more than a candy bar. You can tell by his size he knows how to do that.

What........no Faggotry found. I am disappointed

Originally Posted by Mark C5

Hell, I've seen an AD with a bow and arrow.

[Scissors]

Originally Posted by Flatbush Harry

Actually, when I was doing my LEO thing, a moron had an installed trigger shoe on his Colt Gov't. while putting his pistol in his holster with the firearm loaded and cocked, thumb safety off (he didn't want to lose any time when he drew down). Of course, the holster was pressing on the shoe and when he compressed the grip safety to draw, he shot himself in the leg. I was delighted, as I was his target and he lay on the sidewalk screaming while I covered him with my .44 mag back-up loaded with Remmy mid-range .44 mag loads. The bus took him away, I puked in the street, my partner congratulated me for not shooting him and setting up a paperwork nightmare, and I went back to a more pinstriped, button-down collared and repp tie day job where carrying firearms were not de rigeur. While I did not follow up, I sincerely hope the shithead who precipitated my job search walks with a severe limp.

Cynically,

3aHryr, p*ssy for the last 29 years

Exactly. He didn't have the safeties engaged. If he had, he wouldn't have shot himself and you might have had a worse day.

PS- Skiz, there are more stupid ADs (otherwise referred to as gun stupidities than you can imagine and more than a few equipment-caused failures because many stupids believe they understand semi-autos). I am an NRA-certified instructor and spend a great deal of time pointing out how they happen. I also recommend all novices use revolvers and I, myself, who have had mil and LEO training, 57 years experience and have fired well over 250,000 rds with s-as, prefer a revolver when my life is on the line. That said, I have carried semi-autos on duty, qualified with them repeatedly, have more experience and training than most and trust any of my proven 1911s implicitly.

Harry, fairly seriously

I prefer revolvers because they don't leave brass behind at the scene.

[itsaz]

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