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Old 03-02-2011, 12:02pm   #1
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Default U.S. Military Bus attacked at Frankfurt Airport

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DEVELOPING: Two U.S. airmen were killed in a shooting at Germany's Frankfurt airport. Two other people were reportedly injured.

The incident occurred when a man reportedly opened fire on a bus carrying U.S. military personnel.

The BBC is reporting that police arrested a 21-year-old suspect from Kosovo.

An airport spokesman Wednesday's shooting took place in front of Terminal 2 of what is continental Europe's second-biggest hub. He declined to be named in line with policy.

There was no immediate information on their identity or further casualties.

The U.S. Army Europe said it had no immediate information on the incident but was looking into it.
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I just saw that on the news
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According to German news, 1 soldier and the driver were killed.
The suspect (according to witnesses), snuck into the bus and started an argument, then pulled his gun.
This article states they were U.S. Army.
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According to German news, 1 soldierand the driver were killed.
The suspect (according to witnesses), snuck into the bus and started an argument, then pulled his gun.
This article states they were U.S. Army.
Terrible. Prayers to the families
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From stripes.com:

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Two killed, two U.S. servicemembers wounded in Germany airport shooting
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Published: March 2, 2011

A gunman opened fire Wednesday on U.S. servicemembers aboard a bus at the main airport in Frankfurt, Germany, an airport spokesman said.

Two U.S. servicemembers were killed and two were wounded, one seriously, according to Frankfurt police.

“What we know is that a man opened fire on a bus with U.S. soldiers which was standing in front of Terminal 2 on Frankfurt airport,” said Manfred Fuellhard, spokesman from Frankfurt police.

According to Fuellhard, the dead were a soldier and the driver. It is not clear whether the driver was German or American, or military or civilian.

The wounded were brought to a Frankfurt hospital, but Fuellhard would not identify which hospital.

Calls to Army headquarters in Europe were redirected to United States Air Forces in Europe, indicating that the wounded might have been airmen rather than soldiers, a term used generically by German authorities.

CNN was reporting that the troops killed and injured are U.S. Air Force airmen from Royal Air Force Lakenheath base in the United Kingdom, emphasizing that the information was preliminary

USAFE spokeswoman Maj. Beverly Mock was gathering details and could not confirm the reports.

Fuellhard said the shooter is believed to be a young man from Kosovo, who had opened fire from inside the bus. He is in custody of airport security forces, Fuellhard said.

Germany’s Die Welt newspaper quoted a police spokesman also saying the incident seemed to have taken place inside the bus.
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how did he get in the bus, and why isnt he dead?
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Very strange. The Kosovars in general love Americans, though there are some Serbians who live within Kosovo's borders. Of course, not everyone is the same, so you always get exceptions.
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how did he get in the bus, and why isnt he dead?
How did he get in is bothering me as well, especially how did he get as far as to even get in an argument.

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Very strange. The Kosovars in general love Americans, though there are some Serbians who live within Kosovo's borders. Of course, not everyone is the same, so you always get exceptions.
All it takes is 1 exception.
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Not satisfied with the "explanations" at all.
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When you are at war, casualties happen.

Still, I'd like to know more about the what and why in this incident.

for the families of the dead, and the injured.
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The OP is almost a year old. Why is this back from the dead?
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The OP is almost a year old. Why is this back from the dead?
Dead thread month?
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The OP is almost a year old. Why is this back from the dead?
Hmm Missed that.
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Old 02-12-2012, 11:15am   #15
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Because of this:

German court sentences US airmen's killer to life - CBS News

AP) FRANKFURT, Germany — An Islamic extremist who killed two U.S. airmen in an attack at Frankfurt airport last year was convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison Friday.

Arid Uka, 22, was also convicted of attempted murder and serious bodily harm for wounding two other servicemen and for taking aim at a third before his 9mm pistol jammed.

Uka killed Senior Airman Nicholas J. Alden, 25, from South Carolina, and Airman 1st Class Zachary R. Cuddeback, 21, from Virginia in the March 2 attack on an Air Force security team headed for Afghanistan as its members boarded a bus at the airport.

Staff Sgt. Kristoffer Schneider survived devastating injuries from a head wound. Another airman, Edgar Veguilla, was hit in the jaw and arm.

Judge Thomas Sagebiel ruled at the state court in Frankfurt that the circumstances of the killing mean Uka bears "particularly severe guilt."

That means he won't immediately be eligible for parole after 15 years as is usual in Germany, but must wait several more years for his behavior and possibility for rehabilitation to be reviewed.

Life sentences without a chance for parole are not possible under German law.

In his ruling, Sagebiel cited the fact that Uka shot unarmed people — from behind in Alden's case — and the severity of the injuries and disabilities suffered by Schneider and Veguilla.

Sagebiel also noted that only the pistol's malfunction kept Uka from killing several more people trapped on the bus.

Uka, brought to court in a dark hooded sweat shirt and black sweater, smiled and chatted with his lawyers before and after the sentence was announced. He then sat with his eyes closed and his head down as the judge detailed his reasoning.

Nicholas Alden's brother, Joe Alden of Indianapolis, Indiana, told journalists afterward he felt that the maximum sentence possible meant that "justice has been served. I wish there was more they could do, but he got the maximum."

Uka briefly met Alden's gaze in the courtroom but looked away, he said. "He couldn't look me in the eye, and that's what a coward does."

"I'm satisfied. I'm at peace. There's a huge weight off our shoulders," Alden said.

His sister, Kelseyanne Alden of Calhoun Falls, South Carolina, said she was "disgusted at the way he smiled in the courtroom.

"It's like a joke to him. It's not a joke to us," she said. "We lost our brother." Alden also left behind a widow and two small children.

Prosecutors said Uka, an ethnic Albanian born in Kosovo who grew up in Germany, was an example of a lone-wolf extremist who became radicalized on his own by reading and watching jihadist propaganda on the Internet. During the trial, they introduced as evidence dozens of files containing songs and written material pulled from his cell phone, music player and computer.

Uka, who worked as a temporary mail sorter at the airport, testified that he wanted to stop U.S. service personnel from going to Afghanistan after viewing a video on Facebook that purported to show American soldiers raping a teenage Muslim girl. It turned out to be a scene from the 2007 Brian De Palma anti-war film "Redacted," taken out of context.

Although Germany has experienced scores of terrorist attacks in past decades, largely from leftist groups like the Red Army Faction, the airport attack was the first attributed to an Islamic extremist.

Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, there have been about a half-dozen other jihadist plots that were either thwarted or failed — including a 2007 plan to kill Americans at the U.S. Air Force's Ramstein Air Base.

The airmen at Frankfurt airport were part of a security team traveling from an air base at Lakenheath in Britain.

As they loaded their bus in front of the airport, Uka approached the soldiers and asked for a cigarette, then asked if the group was headed for Afghanistan. Told that it was, Uka pulled a pistol from his backpack and shot the unarmed Alden in the back of the head from 1.5 meters (4 feet) away.

He boarded the bus and killed Cuddeback, the driver, before turning the gun on Schneider and Veguilla. The weapon jammed as he pointed it at Staff Sgt. Trevor Brewer, who testified that Uka had "hate in his eyes" and said "Allahu akbar" — Arabic for "God is great."

Schneider, who testified by video link from an Air Force base in Grand Forks, North Dakota, was shot in the right temple and lost the sight in one eye. The right side of his face had to be rebuilt with titanium and titanium mesh, and he testified he suffers continuing eye and head pain and has had a seizure. Part of his skull above the right temple had to be removed during treatment.

(This version CORRECTS Corrects spelling of name to Kelseyanne Alden, not Kelsey Anne. AP Video.)
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Uka, who worked as a temporary mail sorter at the airport, testified that he wanted to stop U.S. service personnel from going to Afghanistan after viewing a video on Facebook that purported to show American soldiers raping a teenage Muslim girl. It turned out to be a scene from the 2007 Brian De Palma anti-war film "Redacted," taken out of context.
F.U. Hollywood. THIS is why those of us on the right hate you so.

Your failure to EVER want to paint our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines in a positive light, always negatively, is what drives us to hate you.
If you can't find anything that actually happened, you'll make shit up.

F'k YOU Azzholes.

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Dead thread month?
I'm watching Walking Dead marathon right now, new episode on tonight.
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F.U. Hollywood. THIS is why those of us on the right hate you so.

Your failure to EVER want to paint our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines in a positive light, always negatively, is what drives us to hate you.
If you can't find anything that actually happened, you'll make shit up.

F'k YOU Azzholes.
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Nazis are the only thing left that be bad guys without public outcry. Can you imagine if it was Moon Muslims?
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Nono. There are two groups of people you can make into the worst kind of bad guy in these movies. Nazis and agents of the United States. IRS, FBI, CIA, all 5 branches of the Military, TSA, Marshals, Secret Service, Congress and the President are all fair game. Probably even easier to do than Nazis, the costumes would be cheaper.

I'm sure you've seen that one movie where the superhero is bagged constantly by some jackhole Army General, or the benevolent alien is tortured by the sadistic Air Force Colonel, or the one where Joe Everyman is chased all over the place by nameless CIA operatives that just start shooting on sight. If the President isn't a retard when the aliens arrive, the sight of them will strike him dumb or cowardly.

How many movies center on the idea that even if the aliens are nice folks with a cure for cancer they want to share, the whole thing goes to hell because the US Military won't stop pointing guns at them?

Yeah, in Hollywood you use Nazis for kitsch effect, but use the good old USA to display true stupidity, pride, greed, hate or evil.
It has always been this way, and it is something the industry should be ashamed of.

That said...

Anyone that cites a film, or a Black Sabbath song, or a TV series, or a Gangsta Rap track as an excuse, or reason for violence is a liar.

This guy was unbalanced, damaged and a coward LONG before Brian DePalma made his anti-war propaganda film.

Using the film as his excuse is just a way of pointing the finger of blame for his act at the United States. His claims are propaganda just as the film is propaganda.

Redacted is a terrible movie, on several different levels. I lost a lot of respect for DePalma when I saw it. The film is nothing more than the mewlings of a petulant brat that isn't getting his way.

Thank god almost nobody has seen it.

But it is not the reason for this evil.
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I'm watching Walking Dead marathon right now, new episode on tonight.
I'm watching Next, with Nick Cage.....Good movie so far....
It's on FOX
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