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Old 12-01-2016, 11:58pm   #21
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Oooo-rah! Semper Fi!
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Good to see Trump pick Mattis instead some dam politician.
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OOOO-RAH!
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Outstanding choice.
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On the flip side

Former Special Forces Officer: Gen. 'Mad Dog' Mattis Left 'My Men to Die'

A former Army Special Forces officer is accusing retired Marine General James Mattis, President-elect Donald Trump's pick to be defense secretary, of "leaving my men to die" after they were hit by friendly fire in Afghanistan in 2001.

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Old 12-02-2016, 3:46pm   #28
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Former Special Forces Officer: Gen. 'Mad Dog' Mattis Left 'My Men to Die'

A former Army Special Forces officer is accusing retired Marine General James Mattis, President-elect Donald Trump's pick to be defense secretary, of "leaving my men to die" after they were hit by friendly fire in Afghanistan in 2001.

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Former Special Forces Officer: Gen. 'Mad Dog' Mattis Left 'My Men to Die' - NBC News
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sounds like our warriors will love Sec Mattis. more importantly is to watch the reaction of our enemies. if they hate his selection, that's good.
Yes indeed, PBR and CNN are in meltdown mode over this proposed appointment.

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Quite intimidating to your enemies when they meet with you and shake your hand, that they know behind that smile of yours, there is a plan for them.
One would hope that is the ONLY way for this office to exist, but after 8 years of apology, it is apparent the "intellectuals" feel different.
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Old 12-02-2016, 5:07pm   #30
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NBC News, the premier choice for truth and ethical journalists.
Here's some source material.

Lt Col Jason Amerine won't talk to NBC NEWS but the linked is his post on Facebook. He was a Cpt when the incident happened. Air Force SOC didn't hesitate to help and saved the day.

https://www.facebook.com/jason.ameri...54116942187849
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Oh, so NBC is continuing on with the smear by using anything approach. Even when the Lt Col doesn't want to talk to them.
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Mattis still needs Congress to approve his waiver from Military to SOD.
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More negative info on Mattis. link https://thepopulist.wordpress.com/ne...y-and-marines/

"The invasion did not go well for the Marines. In several cities, including Umm al Qasr and Nasiriya, their units suffered heavy casualties fighting remnants of the Iraqi Army and fedayeen guerrillas. Since the Marines had fewer armored vehicles, and they were exposed to a more tenacious enemy, their progress was slower than the Army’s.

Major General Mattis, the commanding general of the Marines in Iraq, was not pleased. He repeatedly pressured his regiments to make greater speed, and this pressure grew more intense as the Marines lagged further behind Army units. On the morning of April 3rd, the First Marine Regiment, commanded by Colonel Dowdy, was ordered to drive to the town of al-Kut.

The city was another choke point, where Iraqi fedayeen guerrillas could ambush Marine convoys in city streets. As soon as his Marines reached the city, they began taking fire. Colonel Dowdy could not forget the mauling another regiment had received in Nasiriya, where 17 Marines were killed and another seventy were wounded.

He had to make a choice. His orders were to proceed to al-Kut, but the decision to push through or bypass the town was up to him. However, Colonel Dowdy was receiving mixed signals from his superiors. According to him “there was a lot of confusion”, some officers were recommending an attack, others urged withdrawal.

Colonel Dowdy decided to bypass al-Kut. His regiment would take an alternative route to Baghdad that was safer, but the detour of 170 miles meant that the Marines fell further behind schedule. Colonel Dowdy‘s superiors were furious with his decision.

After the withdrawal from al-Kut, General Mattis and other staff officers let the Colonel know that his regiment was to make greater speed. That night on the road to Baghdad, vehicles of the First Marine Regiment were ordered to drive the highways of Iraq with their headlights on, irregardless of security. But their progress was not good enough, the Army‘s Fifth Corps had already reached Baghdad.

Colonel Joe Dowdy was relieved of his command the following day. The Marine Corps will never admit it, but he was fired because he failed to carry out the Corps most important mission in Iraq: Colonel Dowdy failed to upstage the US Army by being the first to reach Baghdad.'
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Oh, so NBC is continuing on with the smear by using anything approach. Even when the Lt Col doesn't want to talk to them.
I was for Mattis until I found negative info on him. I would like to get HIS side of the story. I did order a copy of the book described below,

" the incident, which was chronicled in a 2011 New York Times bestselling book, "The Only Thing Worth Dying For," by Eric Blehm. The book portrays Mattis as stubbornly unwilling to help the Green Berets."

Hopefully, questions will be asked at his nomination hearing. I'll be sure to watch .
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Regarding the failure to launch a rescue mission, you can be sure that enough of a stink was made that there had to be an investigation. That document would be interesting.
The other situation mentioned sounds like it needs a more thorough investigation of the facts. Col. Dowdy's performance was based on many factors, not just Gen. Mattis wanting to get to Baghdad first.
This stuff coming up now smacks of a smear campaign.
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Regarding the failure to launch a rescue mission, you can be sure that enough of a stink was made that there had to be an investigation. That document would be interesting.
The other situation mentioned sounds like it needs a more thorough investigation of the facts. Col. Dowdy's performance was based on many factors, not just Gen. Mattis wanting to get to Baghdad first.
This stuff coming up now smacks of a smear campaign.
Exactly. The Dems are now very predictable. Yet, no one is perfect. We all have done dumb shit we later regretted. I would further say, Gen Mattis' 40+ years of service nets a much larger success to failure ratio.
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After the announcement of Maddis's appointment to Secretary of Defense, there was a massive loss of bladder control in the Mideast.
And, I am sure, some in the pentagon.
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