What is the strangest or most obnoxious religion?

[Unsuspicious]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Never EVER confuse GOD with religion

That's pretty good, I like that part

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by Unsuspicious

That's pretty good, I like that part

Too many other do confuse it.
There is MUCH more than can be learned in BOTH the Old and New Testaments, those words are vastly greater, wiser and more applicable than listening to some guy beyond a podium bragging on what he did the past week.

Why does this guy need to profit from worshippers giving their hard-earned money they donate to help ALL OTHERS:

joel osteen net worth $100M
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/ri...een-net-worth/

When a church is vibrant, and earnest, increased tithes SHOULD go to help more in the community--this is the foundation of charity, not getting the pastor a bigger home, and a bigger jet.

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Too many other do confuse it.
There is MUCH more than can be learned in BOTH the Old and New Testaments, those words are vastly greater, wiser and more applicable than listening to some guy beyond a podium bragging on what he did the past week.

Why does this guy need to profit from worshippers giving their hard-earned money they donate to help ALL OTHERS:

joel osteen net worth $100M
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/ri...een-net-worth/

When a church is vibrant, and earnest, increased tithes SHOULD go to help more in the community--this is the foundation of charity, not getting the pastor a bigger home, and a bigger jet.

Olstein is a sad joke.

Jim and Tammy Bakker were also.

We used to watch Ernest Angley because he was so over the top -- HEAL! -- it was like a comedy show.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Too many other do confuse it.
There is MUCH more than can be learned in BOTH the Old and New Testaments, those words are vastly greater, wiser and more applicable than listening to some guy beyond a podium bragging on what he did the past week.

Why does this guy need to profit from worshippers giving their hard-earned money they donate to help ALL OTHERS:

joel osteen net worth $100M
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/ri...een-net-worth/

When a church is vibrant, and earnest, increased tithes SHOULD go to help more in the community--this is the foundation of charity, not getting the pastor a bigger home, and a bigger jet.

Pretty sure that Joel Osteen made his money from the books he’s written. You don’t have a problem with someone making money from using their skills in the market, right?

[Red Baron]

Originally Posted by slewfoot

Religion is no different than politics. You'll find the good in all of them along with the radicals

That's why I'm comfortable attending St. Mattress On The Springs every Sunday.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by LATB

Pretty sure that Joel Osteen made his money from the books he’s written. You don’t have a problem with someone making money from using their skills in the market, right?

Nope, but how much of the book money did he give to causes in need.
All his books were sold to those who look to him for religious direction, therefore their concerns as Christians should be furthered when he takes their monies.

I do have a problem with joel, as I do not think he would have amassed his fortune in a 9-to-5 job, AND 100% OF HIS MONEY COMES FROM THOSE PURSUING RIGHTEOUSNESS.

A fair salary is fine with me, this appears to be excess:





I remember a very wise church leader once telling me that if you paid him a million dollars for all he has done, for 30+ years, for GOD's children it would not be enough, BUT if you tried to pay him a penny he would be insulted, as he did all things out of love.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by LATB

Pretty sure that Joel Osteen made his money from the books he’s written. You don’t have a problem with someone making money from using their skills in the market, right?

If his writing skills are that good, he would not need to take from any of the tithes / offerings,,, but he does just that.

[DAB]

[Red Baron]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Nope, but how much of the book money did he give to causes in need.
All his books were sold to those who look to him for religious direction, therefore their concerns as Christians should be furthered when he takes their monies.

I do have a problem with joel, as I do not think he would have amassed his fortune in a 9-to-5 job, AND 100% OF HIS MONEY COMES FROM THOSE PURSUING RIGHTEOUSNESS.

A fair salary is fine with me, this appears to be excess:





I remember a very wise church leader once telling me that if you paid him a million dollars for all he has done, for 30+ years, for GOD's children it would not be enough, BUT if you tried to pay him a penny he would be insulted, as he did all things out of love.

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[Unsuspicious]

Lavish lifestyle pastors are abundant in the south, of course they found some verses in the bible to justify it. You're supposed to give cheerfully and they get to live lavishly, to honor christ of course

[GTOguy]

I am anti organized religion as I recognize it for the con it is, but believe in God and higher powers. The Golden Rule, etc. I think Islam is evil to the core, and the other religions have their uses in keeping society in line.

[Red Baron]

Religion was man's first attempt to explain the world around him.

[Anjdog2003]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Never EVER confuse GOD with religion, unintelligent haters do this daily.

Man made God a religion "Pharisee approved"

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by Unsuspicious

Lavish lifestyle pastors are abundant in the south, of course they found some verses in the bible to justify it. You're supposed to give cheerfully and they get to live lavishly, to honor christ of course

Knew a lady, not family, she was very religious.
She picked her church based on the affluency of the lead pastor, hers drove a new white shiny Benz, she liked that.

I have a HUGE problem with those who use religion to gain materials things, while many of their members struggle daily to pay essential bills.

[SurfnSun]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Nope, but how much of the book money did he give to causes in need.
All his books were sold to those who look to him for religious direction, therefore their concerns as Christians should be furthered when he takes their monies.

I do have a problem with joel, as I do not think he would have amassed his fortune in a 9-to-5 job, AND 100% OF HIS MONEY COMES FROM THOSE PURSUING RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Here is my problem with Osteen. You want to write books and get rich? Cool lots have done it.

Call yourself a pastor/preacher/teacher etc? No. That guy knows less about the Bible than most 6th graders who attend sunday school. He's a joke who has rewritten scripture to get rich....he will answer for it one day. I wouldn't trade places with him for all the money in the world.

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Knew a lady, not family, she was very religious.
She picked her church based on the affluency of the lead pastor, hers drove a new white shiny Benz, she liked that.

I have a HUGE problem with those who use religion to gain materials things, while many of their members struggle daily to pay essential bills.

With the religion I grew up in, ALL of the preachers took a vow of poverty and owned nothing but their Bible, clothes, glasses, and a suitcase or two.

Originally Posted by SurfnSun

Here is my problem with Osteen. You want to write books and get rich? Cool lots have done it.

Call yourself a pastor/preacher/teacher etc? No. That guy knows less about the Bible than most 6th graders who attend sunday school. He's a joke who has rewritten scripture to get rich....he will answer for it one day. I wouldn't trade places with him for all the money in the world.

He is a good example of the corruption and diluting of Christianity. Being woke and "Can't we all just get along?" in a world full of evil.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by SurfnSun

Here is my problem with Osteen. You want to write books and get rich? Cool lots have done it.

Call yourself a pastor/preacher/teacher etc? No. That guy knows less about the Bible than most 6th graders who attend sunday school. He's a joke who has rewritten scripture to get rich....he will answer for it one day. I wouldn't trade places with him for all the money in the world.

Many 'contemporary' church leaders will often chose to utilize bible passages and parables less, as they want to try to always have a good vibe during their services--donations would definitely go down if the pastor told everyone they were going to hell.
Many have issues with this, as it fails to address the poor behavior we all do.
Matthew 5-7 address both good and evil, Ibelieve that is the template.

I do not watch osteen, never have, no reason to, so I know nothing about his service content other than what is on the interwebby; most commentaries are not favorable.

My issue with him, and with all like him, is the monies made AND spent is in GREAT excess to what they would have if not for religion.

[Onebadcad]

Originally Posted by Bruze

With the religion I grew up in, ALL of the preachers took a vow of poverty and owned nothing but their Bible, clothes, glasses, and a suitcase or two.



He is a good example of the corruption and diluting of Christianity. Being woke and "Can't we all just get along?" in a world full of evil.

If it worked for those dedicated to GOD's work at that time, no one else should inject an opinion.

If it works for those today, AGAIN, no one else should have an opinion.

I am good with anyone doing GOD's work and being paid a wage consistent with what they would earn at a job consistent with their skill set.

[SurfnSun]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Many 'contemporary' church leaders will often chose to utilize bible passages and parables less, as they want to try to always have a good vibe during their services--donations would definitely go down if the pastor told everyone they were going to hell.
Many have issues with this, as it fails to address the poor behavior we all do.
Matthew 5-7 address both good and evil, Ibelieve that is the template.

Pastors who teach a lot of messages about giving usually know zero Bible...and many are conmen.

I do not watch osteen, never have, no reason to, so I know nothing about his service content other than what is on the interwebby; most commentaries are not favorable.

You're definitely not missing anything. He's about as deep as a puddle on flat ground.

My issue with him, and with all like him, is the monies made AND spent is in GREAT excess to what they would have if not for religion.

True Christianity and religion are two different things. I don't expect most to understand....but you are 100% correct.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by DAB

These “conservatives” are all about the free market and wealth until it’s someone who they don’t like because he’s a pastor.