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Old 10-03-2018, 9:32am   #1
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Default I am making uber amounts of money!

uhh... really?

Half of U.S. Uber drivers make less than $10 an hour after vehicle expenses, according to a new study

https://www.recode.net/2018/10/2/179...ourly-expenses

Uber lures drivers with the idea of being your own boss and “making great money with your car.” The “great money” part is up for debate.

The median hourly pay with tip for Uber drivers in the U.S. is $14.73, according to a new study conducted by Ridester, a publication that focuses on the ride-hail industry. That figure includes tips but doesn’t account for expenses like insurance, gas and car depreciation incurred while working. Using Ridester’s low-end estimate of $5 per hour in vehicle costs, drivers would bring in $9.73 per hour and potentially much less.

That implies a driver working 40 hours per week would make an annual salary of almost $31,000 before vehicle expenses, and about $20,000 after expenses (but still before taxes). That’s below the poverty threshold for a family of three. It’s also a far cry from the $70,000 to $90,000 Uber once claimed its drivers made in major markets.

This is important because online “gig economy” jobs, including driving for Uber, are a growing part of the U.S. workforce: About 5 percent of the working population has worked in the gig economy in the past year, up from 2 percent in 2013. So their labor is increasingly tied to overall prosperity. Additionally, these workers are still typically considered contractors, meaning that they aren’t required to receive employer healthcare or other employee benefits.

The study, which was conducted this summer, asked drivers for a screenshot of their Uber app’s earnings page from their last full day driving. The 719 valid screenshots they used show how many hours the drivers worked and how much they were paid after Uber’s cut. It doesn’t factor in other costs like taxes or healthcare. And — worth noting — the study only represents drivers who were motivated enough to send in their data and isn’t necessarily representative of the geographical distribution of Uber drivers.

These numbers differ from Uber’s own study, which was conducted three years ago and also includes drivers who work for its more expensive services like UberBlack.

In New York City, where Uber once claimed “the median wage for an UberX driver working at least 40 hours a week” was $90,766 a year, Ridester’s polling data shows that UberX drivers make $21.92 per hour, including tips but before expenses. Uber’s data from 2015, meanwhile, says drivers brought in $23.69 per hour there. And a study for the New York City Taxi and Limousine Commission released earlier this year found that last fall the median hourly pay from driving apps was $22.90 before tip. At $23 per hour, drivers would have to work 75 hours per week, every week, to generate $90,000.

The Ridester report comes on the heels of a bank-account study from JPMorgan Chase which found that, on average, ride-sharing drivers in the U.S. are making half what they did five years ago, thanks in part to an increase in the number of drivers driving fewer hours.

According to Uber, 80 percent of its partners “drive fewer than 35 hours a week across 20 of our largest markets, and more than half only drive between one and 15 hours each week.” Uber says that drivers’ hourly wages remain consistent over time.

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the only guys making money from taxis are the guys who own the taxis and rent them out to drivers at inflated rates.

the only guys making money from uber are the guys who own the website, and take their cut from drivers at inflated rates.
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A study by MIT puts the median profit at $3.37 per hour.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/03/02/mi...or-lyft-sucks/
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more than i make in my shop!
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more than i make in my shop!


According to the article, 30% of drivers actually lose money every hour they drive, so you're doing quite well by comparison.
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i'm way under water.
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So, basically less than I pay the neighbor kid to mow the lawn. $15/hr is minimum wage in these parts.
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