Enter MAHAman: RFK, Jr. to Meet with Food Industry Execs Tomorrow

[Bill]

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/20...again-n4937706

Something Huge for the MAHA Movement Is About To Happen
Matt Margolis | 1:08 PM on March 08, 2025
AP Photo/Alex Brandon

The foxes are about to meet the new guardian of the henhouse, and it promises to be quite the showdown! Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., is scheduled to meet with executives from General Mills, PepsiCo, and other food industry giants on Monday, according to a report from Politico.

And boy, do they have some explaining to do.

Kennedy, who's been waging war against what he calls the "chemical-intensive processed foods" poisoning Americans, isn't exactly known for pulling punches. During his Senate confirmation hearing in January, he boldly declared what many of us have known for years: "Something is poisoning the American people." Now he's taking his fight directly to the corporate boardrooms of Big Food.

The timing couldn't be more perfect—or more terrifying—for these corporate executives. With the Health and Agriculture Departments set to craft new Dietary Guidelines for Americans this year, the stakes couldn't be higher. These guidelines shape everything from what our kids eat at school to what your doctor tells you about nutrition.

What's particularly interesting about this whole situation is that the Consumer Brands Association—the very group representing these food giants—initiated the meeting proposal back in February.

This could be a sign they’re willing to do what it takes to make foods healthy again, or they’re going to play offense against the changes Kennedy wants to make. So what’s going to happen with to their precious seed oils and chemical additives? Will Big Food capitulate to the Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) movement?

The meeting agenda remains "undecided" as of Friday, which has apparently caused quite the stir among CBA board members. It could mean they are trying to figure out how to defend their ultra-processed food empire against someone who's made it his mission to expose their role in America's chronic illness epidemic. But some industry insiders are whispering that these CEOs might actually cave to Kennedy's demands.

The real question is whether these corporate bigwigs will finally acknowledge their role in America's health crisis, or continue hiding behind their slick marketing campaigns and army of lobbyists. Kennedy's appointment signals that the days of business as usual might be coming to an end for Big Food.

Several fast food chains have recently announced they are switching to beef tallow for frying. One such chain is Steak ‘n Shake, which announced its support of RFK Jr. and the MAHA movement on Friday.

One thing's certain: Monday's meeting won't be your typical corporate kumbaya session. With Kennedy's track record of calling out food conglomerates for their role in increasing childhood chronic illnesses, these executives better bring more than their usual PR talking points to the table.

The American people are watching, and they're tired of being force-fed chemicals disguised as food. It's about time someone in Washington had the courage to stand up to these corporate giants. Monday can't come soon enough.

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[Trapper Sean]

Other than being delicious so they can make you fat, I don't know much about all these alleged toxins and poisons in processed foods.

Got any evidence that Doritos and Pepsi are toxic? Any snack foods?

I think said chemicals in there are supposed to prevent deterioration and spoilage, and makes them safer. BTW, everything is "chemicals."

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by Trapper Sean

Other than being delicious so they can make you fat, I don't know much about all these alleged toxins and poisons in processed foods.

Got any evidence that Doritos and Pepsi are toxic? Any snack foods?

I think said chemicals in there are supposed to prevent deterioration and spoilage, and makes them safer. BTW, everything is "chemicals."

Let's just say-the flavored cereals sold to Canada is actual flavors while in the US it's artificial flavoring/coloring. Hormones pumping up poultry to make bigger chicken breasts, etc...

[Trapper Sean]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

Let's just say-the flavored cereals sold to Canada is actual flavors while in the US it's artificial flavoring/coloring. Hormones pumping up poultry to make bigger chicken breasts, etc...

I'll play devil's advocate and say it's better this way.

Where's the evidence that this is a problem?

BTW I'm finding that hormone use in poultry production was banned in the United States in the 1950s.

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by Trapper Sean

I'll play devil's advocate and say it's better this way.

Where's the evidence that this is a problem?

BTW I'm finding that hormone use in poultry production was banned in the United States in the 1950s.

You are correct and I withdraw my hormone statement.

Serious question-Do you shop organic isle or just buy what's on sale ? Ever wonder how the US got to be the fattest country on earth ?

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Trapper Sean

I'll play Devil's advocate and say it's better this way.

Where's the evidence that this is a problem?

Obesity rates in the US? Number of chronically sick people here? I mean, clearly you can see the problem with the chemicals they use to make blue hair dye.

Correlation doesn't always equal causation, but sometimes it does. Isn't it worth doing a little investigating? Isn't that what the FDA and other government agencies are supposed to be doing, ensuring the public isn't being harmed?

It's the same reason we want to look at the explosion of vaccines. Maybe they're all harmless for most (covid shots excepted, of course, we all saw how they hurt people), and maybe given in the frequency they are given doesn't cause any problem, but maybe there is a problem there, either individual shots, or the combination of shots, or the frequency, something.

[Over140mph]

Originally Posted by Trapper Sean

I'll play devil's advocate and say it's better this way.

Where's the evidence that this is a problem?

The issue with your question lives within the testing regimen of the food industry. Lab tests on beagles and mice are typically only 2 years. How long does a human live?

Netamycin is one of many preservative toxins that has been ok'd by the FDA.

In small doses on little animals for 2 years.. yah, they are *mostly ok.

However, on the big end of 30-40 years? Those crash test dummies don't fair so well.

To assess the long term toxicity effect of natamycin, groups of 35–40 male and female rats were fed with diets containing natamycin at a concentration of 0, 125, 250, 500, or 1000 mg/kg for 2 years. The animals remained in good health, and their survival was unaffected by treatment. Nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea have been observed occasionally after an oral dose of 300–400 mg of natamycin daily; no changes in peripheral blood cells were observed (Anonymous, 1968). A group of 10 patients with systemic mycoses received oral doses of 50–1000 mg/day for 13–180 days. Nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea occurred in those receiving 600–1000 mg/day (Newcomer et al., 1960). No allergic sensitization occurred among 111 patients being treated with natamycin for a variety of conditions (Gruyper, 1961, 1964). No history of allergic reactions was found in 73 workers engaged for an average of 5 years in the manufacture of natamycin.

the above is buried on like page 62 of a 200 page document:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8595390/

[Onebadcad]

The American people are watching, and they're tired of being force-fed chemicals disguised as food. It's about time someone in Washington had the courage to stand up to these corporate giants. Monday can't come soon enough.

I will argue this, most people eat whatever shit they can, they want it cheap and fast.

Eating healthy takes both time and money, a killer for most folks, as takes away from their fb and ig time.

[VatorMan]

I remember when Asbestos was awesome as well. How many years did it take before it was outlawed? Same with tobacco ?

Not saying you're wrong, but if it took thousands of Asbestos workers dying of mesothelioma to find out it was the asbestos, millions of obese sick people deserve the same look.

[VatorMan]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

I will argue this, most people eat whatever shit they can, they want it cheap and fast.

Eating healthy takes both time and money, a killer for most folks, as takes away from their fb and ig time.

It can be simple changes like items in the recipe or how something is cooked - IE using beef tallow VS vegetable oil.

[Over140mph]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

It can be simple changes like items in the recipe or how something is cooked - IE using beef tallow VS vegetable oil.

My wife is a saint in creating tallow from boiling chicken. We got through 10-15 pounds of chicken per week for the Shepherds (spoilt rotten) and she purposely separates the tallow in large pans for them to make snacks and human cooking

[Trapper Sean]

Obesity doesn't sound like a likely effect of poisons and toxins. Sounds to me like an effect from tasty food.

[Trapper Sean]

Originally Posted by Over140mph

The issue with your question lives within the testing regimen of the food industry. Lab tests on beagles and mice are typically only 2 years. How long does a human live?

Netamycin is one of many preservative toxins that has been ok'd by the FDA.

In small doses on little animals for 2 years.. yah, they are *mostly ok.

However, on the big end of 30-40 years? Those crash test dummies don't fair so well.



the above is buried on like page 62 of a 200 page document:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8595390/

What's my mg/ kg dose of natamycin if I eat an ounce of cheese?

[Trapper Sean]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

It can be simple changes like items in the recipe or how something is cooked - IE using beef tallow VS vegetable oil.

American Heart Association recommends vegetable and seed oils and says there's no reason not to use them. AHA does recommend limiting saturated animal fats like beef tallow.

[Over140mph]

Originally Posted by Trapper Sean

What's my mg/ kg dose of natamycin if I eat an ounce of cheese?

Over 40 years? A LOT

[Bill]

[donuts]

Originally Posted by Trapper Sean

American Heart Association recommends vegetable and seed oils and says there's no reason not to use them. AHA does recommend limiting saturated animal fats like beef tallow.

AHA is FOS and only stays afloat by bloated gov grants .. it promotes what it needs to stay alive. Fact

[Trapper Sean]

Originally Posted by donuts

AHA is FOS and only stays afloat by bloated gov grants .. it promotes what it needs to stay alive. Fact

Ok let's try The American College of Cardiology.

Use liquid plant oils rather than tropical oils (coconut, palm, and palm kernel), animal fats (e.g., butter and lard), and partially hydrogenated fats. Liquid plant oils are rich in unsaturated fats, which reduce low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol and CVD risk, as are peanuts, most tree nuts, and flax seeds.


https://www.acc.org/Latest-in-Cardio...nce-to-Improve

[Trapper Sean]

Originally Posted by donuts

AHA is FOS and only stays afloat by bloated gov grants .. it promotes what it needs to stay alive. Fact

...or how bout The European Society of Cardiology?

Limit the consumption of saturated fatty acids [Trapper Sean] ie beef tallow [/Trapper Sean] to <10% of total energy through replacement by poly-unsaturated fatty acids (PUFA).

* Use vegetable oils rich in PUFA and soft spreads based on e.g., soybean oil, canola oil and extra-virgin olive oil.[Trapper Sean] ie "seed oils" [/Trapper Sean]

https://www.escardio.org/Journals/E-...ining-challeng

[Trapper Sean]

Originally Posted by VatorMan

Serious question-Do you shop organic isle or just buy what's on sale ? Ever wonder how the US got to be the fattest country on earth ?

I'm not sure where this question is going, but it is said to be SERIOUS so I will answer.

I usually do not buy organic because it costs more.
That said, I buy the best-looking produce at times regardless of cost.
Often, "organic" bananas or onions look better.

I used to work with a laboratory lady in a hospital who said she was bailing out of the hospital life to work full-time on her organic farm. I asked her what was different/better about organic. She said basically nothing. Just a guy comes once per year to look around, certifies her as organic, and then she gets about twice as much money for corn.

Regarding fattest, that's a good reflection on quality and abundance of US food.