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Old 05-02-2024, 9:02am   #21
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I used to use Iron Out.

I am pretty sure it'll cause 3 headed baby's if you get too close to it but it worked. Ours was so bad the sump pumps looked like lumps of iron, throw it in a bucket with water and iron out, was spotless after.
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I used to use Iron Out.

I am pretty sure it'll cause 3 headed baby's if you get too close to it but it worked. Ours was so bad the sump pumps looked like lumps of iron, throw it in a bucket with water and iron out, was spotless after.
I tried using Iron Out once and it didn't go too well.

Told my wife to iron out my shirt.

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Don't count on magic rust removal solutions to get rid of long-standing, deep seated stains...there are some pumice stones that you can try that may (or may not) get the stains out but its muscle-cramping work on large areas...

And, worst case, there are companies that will "recoat" the surface and I think (might be wrong) there are some that use underwater equipment that doesn't even require draining the water.
The rust removal might last a few weeks or months but it's almost a certainty that it will return. As the pool is 20 years old, there's a high probability that small, mostly imperceptible cracks have developed in the pool surfuce, allowing water to reach the reinforcing rebar, causing them to begin rusting.

IMO, you best course of action would be to drain the pool and have it resurfaced. Once the rust starts, you're not going to stop it.
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The rust removal might last a few weeks or months but it's almost a certainty that it will return. As the pool is 20 years old, there's a high probability that small, mostly imperceptible cracks have developed in the pool surfuce, allowing water to reach the reinforcing rebar, causing them to begin rusting.

IMO, you best course of action would be to drain the pool and have it resurfaced. Once the rust starts, you're not going to stop it.
Ouch, but you may be onto something....There is a small spot very close to the skimmer that has some pretty bad loss of plaster. Has to be worn close to the rebar. I have a 50lb bag of the Diamond Brite, maybe spot patching....?

You have me thinking.... maybe after this season I'll redo the surface and tile.
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Too strong- only as a last resort. Try Lime-Away.
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Absolutely. Hey, this is a little off the subject, but it pertains to you. I saw your old buddy, Dean Martin, the other day in Safeway. I couldn't believe it! I thought he had passed years ago, but no. He still has a decent voice, too. He started singing right there at the register...
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I do have a couple bottles around here and yes my thoughts too.

I've worked with the acid before and it can really f u up! Breathing the fumes....I may try to dilute and test it. The waste line in installed, runs deep into our wooded area out back. I'd hate to pour acid back there....?
Drain that concrete pond and clean it.
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I have high IRON in my water as well. I changed my pool filter element from sand to crushed glass. When I fill the pool with well water, I fill it at the skimmer while the pump is running, so the iron is filtered out. After every time I fill the pool, I backwash the filter. Sand filter did a horrible job with IRON. Glass element works 100 x better with IRON.

https://www.poolsupplies.com/product...xoCBLoQAvD_BwE
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Better not if the groundwater is high.
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No it's not, as long as it's used correctly. It will be significantly diluted.

https://poolcareguy.com/muriatic-acid-pool/
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No it's not, as long as it's used correctly. It will be significantly diluted.

https://poolcareguy.com/muriatic-acid-pool/
Gave the tile a quick wipe, the stain came right off
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Better not if the groundwater is high.

There are plugs in the bottom that you remove if you drain it. The theory is that if the hydrostatic pressure becomes too much, water will simply flow into the pool and not float the shell. That's the theory. I've had my pool drained once to have the tiles redone and I was nervous the whole week. Had the plugs out and no water entered the pool, but I was a happy camper when the tile guy was done and I could call the water trucks in.
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There are plugs in the bottom that you remove if you drain it. The theory is that if the hydrostatic pressure becomes too much, water will simply flow into the pool and not float the shell. That's the theory. I've had my pool drained once to have the tiles redone and I was nervous the whole week. Had the plugs out and no water entered the pool, but I was a happy camper when the tile guy was done and I could call the water trucks in.
Never any issues. This pool is small, waste deep, 25x 12’. I’ve never determined the gallons but would like to know. Maybe 5-7000 gallons. My wife calls it a 40 person Roman spa. More than enough for me and it’s a great learning pool for kids. As their confidence increases they go one step deeper into the water.

The pool is surrounded by the 12” stone wall, and the wall did settle but no movement after the first winter. It can be empty or filled, the rain water fills it quickly….

I’m going to scrub it off then rinse and empty. Then add some muriatic acid to the water. It’s even written on the acid bottle, for pool use.
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Never any issues. This pool is small, waste deep, 25x 12’. I’ve never determined the gallons but would like to know. Maybe 5-7000 gallons. My wife calls it a 40 person Roman spa. More than enough for me and it’s a great learning pool for kids. As their confidence increases they go one step deeper into the water.

The pool is surrounded by the 12” stone wall, and the wall did settle but no movement after the first winter. It can be empty or filled, the rain water fills it quickly….

I’m going to scrub it off then rinse and empty. Then add some muriatic acid to the water. It’s even written on the acid bottle, for pool use.


Determine the cubic inches of the water and divide by 231. There are 231 inches per gallon of water. And I didn't even have to look that one up!


Mine is 38,000 gallons. Roughly 45' x 22' double-kidney shape. Deep end is 8' - shallow end is around 3'.
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Determine the cubic inches of the water and divide by 231. There are 231 inches per gallon of water. And I didn't even have to look that one up!
I wrote that knowing you’d be able to tell me. I’ll mark up a little sketch for you to work on! 😆



Edit: mine is just a puddle as compared!

I’m actually really pleased with this tiny pool. Very little costs and does the job. We spend our entire season with the kids and now grands. Pop pop cooks every Sunday! All are welcome
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I wrote that knowing you’d be able to tell me. I’ll mark up a little sketch for to work on! 😆



Edit: mine is just a puddle as compared!

I’m actually really pleased with this tiny pool. Very little costs and does the job. We spend our entire season with the kids and now grands. Pop pop cooks every Sunday! All are welcome
What's cooking this week, pork chops, or ham?
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