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Old 08-06-2019, 07:42am   #1
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Default Dayton Shooter Was In a “Pornogrind” Band

Released Songs About Raping and Killing Women

Before he killed nine people in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, early Sunday, Connor Betts was deeply involved in the misogynistic, male-dominated “goregrind” or “pornogrind” extreme metal music scene. It has a regional following in the Midwest and is known for sexually violent, death-obsessed lyrics and dehumanizing imagery depicting women.

Over the past year, the 24-year-old shooter occasionally performed live vocals in the band Menstrual Munchies, which released albums titled “6 Ways of Female Butchery” and “Preeteen Daughter Pu$$y Slaughter,” with cover art showing the rape and massacre of female bodies. He also performed with a group called Putrid Liquid.

Now one of Betts’ bandmates, Jesse Creekbaum, 25, is taking the recordings down. He says he’s removing them out of fear the vulgar music he produced will make a cult hero out of the murderer, who was killed by police at the scene. He’s also received death threats online because of his association with Betts.

Creekbaum, who has been writing and recording music under the name Menstrual Munchies for more than five years, says he did it mostly as a joke and now is sickened that Betts apparently took it all seriously.

“I feel shitty having let him be in the band, doing those lyrics,” Creekbaum said. “Because I know, like, whereas I saw it as a joke — like, ‘Let's play this and we’ll shock some people,’ and then the people that we know laugh — he didn't see it as a joke. He was like, ‘****, yeah. We're gonna do this.’”

“It's like, Jesus Christ, how much of this was like real life for him?” he said.

In addition to scrubbing the internet of the band’s recordings, Creekbaum is reaching out to anyone who has hosted his songs or videos to ask them to remove those, too.

“I took it all down. I'm trying to get everyone I know to take all of it down,” he said. “I don't want to be associated with it. I don't want it blowing up. I don't want him romanticized. I don't want any of this romanticized. I want people to erase him from history.”

The Pornogrind scene

The Midwest pornogrind scene exists in an obscure pocket of the larger grindcore genre and consists of a handful of bands who often play shows to each other or to small audiences. Even better-known bands in the genre writ large, such as Germany-based Cock and Ball Torture, have just thousands of Facebook fans.

Menstrual Munchies often performed with other regional acts like Necro Cannibal Ass Grinder, Bill Nye da Nazi Spy, and **** Torch, playing festivals like the Pornfieldz of Illinoise Grindfest or a former venue in Columbia, Missouri, called UPS — Under the Porn Shop, named for its location beneath the Venus Adult Megastore, owned by the mother of fellow scenester Zach Walton, of the band Groin Mallet.

In a phone interview, Walton, who has booked Menstrual Munchies at that venue, said the pornogrind scene is tight-knit and that he and his friends have been devastated to learn what Betts did. But he doesn’t believe the content of the music contributed in any way to his actions.

“It's just the music we love, you know, like, it's fun to play. It's energetic and there's nothing else like it. So we play it,” Walton, 29, said. “And then we get people like this, who, you know, are ****ing sick in the head, who get into our scene and ended up killing nine people and almost, you know, putting a bad name on our scene. And that's not fair for the rest of us.”

Betts was not involved in any of the writing or recording and only performed as a live vocalist for Menstrual Munchies. Nevertheless, Creekbaum said he removed the band’s Facebook, Bandcamp and YouTube pages from the web. But a saved version of the Bandcamp page found on the Internet Archive reveals the sexually violent and demeaning album titles and artwork.

Many of the band’s songs are still active on other websites. The members of Putrid Liquid did not respond to a request for comment sent through their Bandcamp page, which is still active.

Creekbaum says he feels conflicted: On the one hand, he believes music and art do not cause people to commit murder, but on the other hand, he feels guilty for having associated with someone who carried out violence similar to the kind he portrayed in his songs.

Creekbaum said he contacted the Dayton police immediately after hearing the news, but said they hadn’t replied to him, although he said the FBI visited his home on Monday to interview him.

Betts' bizarre behavior

Looking back, there were clues something wasn’t right with Betts. Betts was a loner and emotionally withdrawn, Creekbaum and others in the scene told VICE News.

Creekbaum said Betts once brought a handgun on a tour to Iowa and suggested to others that they rob some gas stations — something Creekbaum said he chewed Betts out for but didn’t take seriously.

He said he and others had recently distanced themselves from Betts over his bizarre behavior, including talking in realistic terms about the violence depicted in the music, telling stories about his past methamphetamine use, and lying about having a criminal record.

He said Betts had also told them about a previously reported incident in which he was suspended from his high school for keeping a “hit list” and a “rape list” of classmates he wanted to commit violence against.

“I think he decided that he was going to kill himself, and he was like, ‘I don't have the balls to do it’ and he drew a gun,” Creekbaum speculated.

The band hadn’t been active since Creekbaum found out in July that Betts had contacted showgoers online after a recent gig and asked them to send him money on PayPal, something Creekbaum found obnoxious.
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Dayton gunman was pro-gun control, friend says

The gunman who fatally shot nine people -- including his sister -- and injured more than two dozen in Dayton, Ohio, early Sunday was “anti-Second Amendment” and “never spit out a conservative opinion on gun control,” according to a former classmate and friend.

The 24-year-old gunman, who was killed by police less than a minute after he opened fire with an AR-15-style rifle outside a crowded bar, attended Bellbrook High School with Will El-Fakir, the Dayton Daily News reported. Although Fox News has identified him, neither his name nor his photo are being aired or published unless necessary for clarity.

El-Fakir told the paper he stopped talking to him five months ago after the future killer held a gun to his head.

El-Fakir told the paper that his former pal was “definitely not a right-leaning person. His political views definitely leaned to the left. And believe it or not, he was pro-gun control. He was actually anti-Second Amendment.”

“I don’t know if this is the motive that made him snap,” El-Fakir told the Dayton Daily News.

In the last months of their friendship, El-Fakir said his troubled friend was getting violent with pals and surveyed bars as good places to do “damage.”

A Twitter feed which appears to have belonged to the suspect also showed left-leaning tweets lamenting the 2016 election of President Trump. The account @iamthespookster didn't bear his name, but did show selfies that resembled known photos of him.

Twitter took the account down late Sunday, fueling speculation that it belonged to the gunman. The killer also appeared to support 2020 Democratic presidential contender Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, according to The Associated Press.

The Dayton gunman was reportedly suspended during his sophomore year of high school for compiling a “hit list” of those he wanted to kill and a “rape list” of girls he wanted to sexually assault.

Following a police investigation, Betts returned to school and had nothing on his record that would have prevented him from buying the weapon used in Sunday’s mass shooting, Dayton Police Chief Richard Biehl said.

In middle school, he also allegedly told a female classmate he fantasized about slitting her throat. In an attempt to get him help, the girl and her parents approached school administration but they said they weren’t taken seriously.

The gunman’s sister, Megan Betts, 22, a student at Wright State University, was among the nine people who died in the shooting. Police have not released a motive.
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Another act of random journalism......

Apparent Twitter feed shows Dayton shooter was leftist
by: The Associated Press

Posted: Aug 6, 2019 / 11:40 AM EDT / Updated: Aug 6, 2019 / 11:40 AM EDT

DAYTON, Ohio (AP/WOOD) — A Twitter account appearing to be from the gunman who killed nine people in Dayton, Ohio, showed tweets labeling himself a “leftist,” bemoaning the election of President Donald Trump, supporting Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren and encouraging people to cut fences of immigrant detention centers.

While investigators try to determine a motive for Sunday’s attack by 24-year-old Connor Betts, his apparent account offers a window into his politics. It stands in contrast to the social media of El Paso shooting suspect Patrick Crusius, which appeared to support Trump.

Though the Twitter account @iamthespookster does not bear Betts’ name, it does include selfies that resemble known photos of him.

The Associated Press archived some of the feed but it was taken down by Twitter late Sunday amid speculation it belonged to Betts.

Dayton police didn’t immediately respond to comment requests about whether the account was authentic. Police in Betts’ suburban hometown of Bellbrook said they hadn’t been aware of his tweets before or after the shooting.

Dayton Mayor Nan Whaley will hold a news conference at noon in the wake of the shooting. Watch it live here.
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Mental illness has no allegiance to any political affiliation.
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Mental illness has no allegiance to any political affiliation.
correct; but certain "news outlets" make certain theses types of stories lean one (the same) direction... regardless.
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The media will never tell the full truth. That scum is a left wing wacko.
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