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Old 02-26-2011, 7:10pm   #21
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Sorry...I wasn't aware that it got that bad. I'll try to stopin more often.

Fair warning: I don't have patience for BS and I will give folks time off if you can't debate like adults.
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:35pm   #22
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I first came in hoping to find the same type of debate I was accustomed to. What I saw was quite the opposite so I found myself joining in the same type of blabber I read.

That's really not me! I may be a wise guy at times but if the discussion is reasonable then I will be as well.

This site has promise but to make it live up to it's potential it can't be a place where all it becomes is attacks on each or a defense, or an attack, on ideology.

Just my thoughts.
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:27pm   #23
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I love a good debate where I learn something just as much as Will. Thanks for the check in IC.
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Since "Sneaks" and "Culookin" are nowhere to be found, I'd still suggest a new moderator just for PRC. Iron Chef can't (and shouldn't have to) constantly monitor it. A few people who have replied to this thread would make good choices IMO, like Entropy or Chris Fowler (I don't mean to put you out there if you're not interested, just making a suggestion).


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Old 03-01-2011, 1:11pm   #25
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Old 03-01-2011, 7:44pm   #26
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A few people who have replied to this thread would make good choices IMO, like Entropy or Chris Fowler (I don't mean to put you out there if you're not interested, just making a suggestion).
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Old 03-01-2011, 8:48pm   #27
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Why was that thread deleted? Just inquiring.
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Old 03-01-2011, 9:26pm   #28
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Why was that thread deleted? Just inquiring.
It wasn't but the specific post he linked to probably was, they were being naughty.

Thread in question.
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Since "Sneaks" and "Culookin" are nowhere to be found, I'd still suggest a new moderator just for PRC. Iron Chef can't (and shouldn't have to) constantly monitor it. A few people who have replied to this thread would make good choices IMO, like Entropy or Chris Fowler (I don't mean to put you out there if you're not interested, just making a suggestion).


I'm not against it, but I do spend a lot of time off line, especially on weekends and during the summer (I know, I know, I'm one of those worthless punks who's sucking on the tit, but I do try to make good use of the time I do get off.).
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Old 03-17-2011, 4:22pm   #30
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It wasn't but the specific post he linked to probably was, they were being naughty.

Thread in question.
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Old 03-22-2011, 8:11pm   #31
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Well this is an unexpected turn of events:


https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/o...-portdawg.html


Scroll to post #36 and beyond.


The people have spoken. I think you know what you need to do IC.


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Old 03-23-2011, 9:41pm   #32
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Well this is an unexpected turn of events:


https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/o...-portdawg.html


Scroll to post #36 and beyond.


The people have spoken. I think you know what you need to do IC.


Send you to Japan?? Don't be coy. Spit it out.
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Old 03-24-2011, 9:27am   #33
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All kidding aside, if not ME can we please get SOMEONE to clean up this festering shit-hole and make it a worthwhile place for discussion.


https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/p...upporters.html


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All kidding aside, if not ME can we please get SOMEONE to clean up this festering shit-hole and make it a worthwhile place for discussion.


https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/p...upporters.html




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POLITICS, RELIGION AND CONTROVERSY (3 viewing)

There is a reason for the lack of PR&C participation and it's not lack of interest.
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There is a reason for the lack of PR&C participation and it's not lack of interest.
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Old 03-24-2011, 5:52pm   #36
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okay, i'm getting a chance to really think about the video, and what i'm seeing is the idea that somehow, through taxing and spending and government jobs, we're creating wealth (according to the individuals in that video). I don't see government spending as a way to create wealth, rather it's a way to transfer it, since it offers services rather than innovates new technologies and develops new markets. The only real areas where it *might* accomplish that is through the funding in nsf and nih, and even then, the investment is rather small comparatively.

The idea of forcing big business to spend the money or encouraging them to is ludicrous. If there is anything that has been shown forth by government, their ability to control how businesses operate successfully is an absolute and abject failure. Governments are subject to the rule of the market, so when they try to mess with it, it doesn't work. This is the source of crony capitalism, which means that businesses will get in bed with politicians for the short term, because it will make them money, but then they will get out as soon as it stops serving their immediate needs.

The whole idea of comparing tax breaks for big business to 1984 has to be the craziest damn thing i've ever heard. 1984 = big oppressive government, where the idea that cantor had at the beginning of the video is to decrease the size of government. Now if they will actually do that is yet to be seen, but the initial idea that chris and robert had was just nuts.

The idea that somehow letting this government funding continue and will stimulate the economy is a shell game. Yeah, it might work for a little while, but it won't last. It's smoke and mirrors and will only serve for a short time and will not sustain continued growth. Why? Because in it's very essence it is wealth transfer, and not creation. It will just be another bubble. Such short sighted thinking is stupid. Period.

Discussing basic mathematics of economics and comparing it to a religion is a disservice to any points matthews is trying to make. It weakens it as a red herring. People are underwater in their houses = so what in my book. It's only money lost if you actually sell your house, or if you try to borrow against it for some reason. Sometimes investments go badly, and if you can't deal with that, than capitalism is clearly not your game.
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that's it ?

This is your response to the gop/tea party *grand* job creation and taking america back through war on women by eliminating the irs who they also want to police women so to arrest women who want the right to choice ?
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What are you talking about?

I was just responding to the video you posted.
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here's what you said ...

This is exactly the point ... When you voted the gop/tea party in on jobs creation ... (or the dems lack of due to gop filibustering on every stimulus issue for the last 2 years ...) .. You got baffled with bs because now the gop/tea party says you voted them in on *conservative core values* ...

Eliminating abortion rights and make the irs police women while eliminating the irs is *conservative (taliban) religion* as the main economic theme thus far ...

Time to stop playing dumb on vbpr&c ...




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Old 03-24-2011, 6:10pm   #37
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Old 03-24-2011, 6:27pm   #38
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I spend time in there....when I can.....I'll drop in today !
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If I'm going to keep it up Will, I'm going to need a lot more beer. Or whiskey. Yeah.
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I spend time in there....when I can.....I'll drop in today !

Port Dawg, do not burden yourself so my friend.


The people have spoken: https://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/o...-portdawg.html


See post #36 and beyond.


DO IT !!!


I will serve the interests of my people with humility and grace.
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