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Old 04-14-2021, 3:30pm   #1
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Default Court Vindicates Black Officer Fired for Stopping Colleague's Chokehold

This girl worked for me after she got fired from the cop shop.
She was nothing but nice, caring, punctual, and from where I sat, an all around good person/ employee. I knew that she got let go by the BPD, but I never knew why until I read this today.
Damn.... 15 years ago and she gets all of that back pay and benefits and full pension..
I'd sue the fk out of the city if I were her.

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It was a cold November day in Buffalo, New York, when Officer Cariol Horne responded to a call for a colleague in need of help. What she encountered was a white officer who appeared to be “in a rage” punching a handcuffed Black man in the face repeatedly as other officers stood by.

Horne, who is Black, heard the handcuffed man say he could not breathe and saw the white officer put him in a chokehold. At that point, court documents show, she forcibly removed the white officer and began to trade blows with him.

In the altercation’s aftermath, Horne was reassigned, hit with departmental charges and, eventually, fired just one year short of the 20 on the force she needed to collect her full pension.
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Gotta know the hole story.....

but summfin is rong.....
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4 months post inauguration.
No election debt paid yet?
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Good for her. Sounds like the cop she interfered with was a POS.
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Good for her. Sounds like the cop she interfered with was a POS.
Back then there were quite a few cops in Buffalo who "took liberties" with perps. Some to the point of actually being fired, amazingly enough.
The advent of cell phone cameras has really brought to light the bad cops.
About two years ago, a sheriff beat the bejeezus out of a Bills fan who did nothing but open his mouth to stave off another person's beating . It was all caught on camera, and now, the County and Sheriff are paying dearly for his stupidity.
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By nice if those same cellphone cameras could bring to light the destruction of civilization via the welfare state. Solid families and communities don’t require a militarized police force but welfare hoods do.

Scapegoating the police is sure to make things even worse unless the goal isn’t a functional society? Bottom line is current police problems are a symptom/reaction, not a cause. That should be obvious.
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By nice if those same cellphone cameras could bring to light the destruction of civilization via the welfare state. Solid families and communities don’t require a militarized police force but welfare hoods do.

Scapegoating the police is sure to make things even worse unless the goal isn’t a functional society? Bottom line is current police problems are a symptom/reaction, not a cause. That should be obvious.
And what would you propose?
It seems that corralling them in cities, keeping them drunk & drugged, and giving them money isn't working.
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And what would you propose?
It seems that corralling them in cities, keeping them drunk & drugged, and giving them money isn't working.
We could put them in mobile home parks, but then they'd be YOUR neighbor.
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And what would you propose?
It seems that corralling them in cities, keeping them drunk & drugged, and giving them money isn't working.
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Nobody is keeping them there but themselves.
Nobody is forcing them to the liquor store or drug dealer.
There's more opportunities for anybody to better themselves, especially any kind of minority group.

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Lots of people believes that 100%, and actually think it's a downfall. Their thinking is there is no motivation to better themselves because of handouts vs. a hand-up.
Every kid gets a trophy.
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And what would you propose?
It seems that corralling them in cities, keeping them drunk & drugged, and giving them money isn't working.
Who's "corralling them in cities?" I have yet to see fences around the bad parts of large cities. And who's "keeping them drunk and drugged?"

As for a solution, how about making people work for their pay, even if the pay is from the .gov? Nah, that would never work.
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Who's "corralling them in cities?" I have yet to see fences around the bad parts of large cities. And who's "keeping them drunk and drugged?"

As for a solution, how about making people work for their pay, even if the pay is from the .gov? Nah, that would never work.
LBJ needed votes.
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LBJ needed votes.
Yup. It never was about ending poverty. Dems are still using welfare and "free" .gov money to buy votes.

Since everything here is open at full capacity hotels, restaurants, stores and other businesses are begging people to work for them, but nobody wants to work. Between "enhanced" unemployment benefits, welfare and "free" stimulus money, even $15+/hr isn't enough to hire anyone. Local Omni ran a half page ad in the local paper this week saying they are short over 100 employees, and begging people to apply. Maids get $15/h and pay goes up from there for other positions. Meanwhile in the bad part of Jacksonville there have been 31 murders so far this year; 95% of them involved a young black male as the murderer. I'm sure they're pissed off because they're fenced in and forcibly kept drunk and drugged, so it's understandable.
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Yup. It never was about ending poverty. Dems are still using welfare and "free" .gov money to buy votes.

Since everything here is open at full capacity hotels, restaurants, stores and other businesses are begging people to work for them, but nobody wants to work. Between "enhanced" unemployment benefits, welfare and "free" stimulus money, even $15+/hr isn't enough to hire anyone. Local Omni ran a half page ad in the local paper this week saying they are short over 100 employees, and begging people to apply. Maids get $15/h and pay goes up from there for other positions. Meanwhile in the bad part of Jacksonville there have been 31 murders so far this year; 95% of them involved a young black male as the murderer. I'm sure they're pissed off because they're fenced in and forcibly kept drunk and drugged, so it's understandable.
The beginnings of steep inflation, as they'll have to pay higher wages, then charge higher prices, and on and on.
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Yup. It never was about ending poverty. Dems are still using welfare and "free" .gov money to buy votes.

To be fair; when LBJ enacted that, there were Americans that needed it to move forward, it helped.

The stipulation was; no man could live in that home, and every kid in that home was monetized.
Unfortunately this created many unwanted kids, and kids that grew up without a male role model in the home....and here we are today.
Kids and adults without morals or values, children having children, parents that don't know anything about parenting.
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And what would you propose?
It seems that corralling them in cities, keeping them drunk & drugged, and giving them money isn't working.
As a society, we need to return to sound money and cut up the political class’s credit cards (fiat dollar). The ability to create currency above and beyond real economic growth, is the ultimate political power and just waiting to be abused by both politicians and citizens.

Government spending needs to be paid for by current citizens. When it can’t be transferred to the future, politicians will be held accountable.

“Good economics is bad politics and good politics is bad economics.” -Schiff
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Back then there were quite a few cops in Buffalo who "took liberties" with perps. Some to the point of actually being fired, amazingly enough.
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About two years ago, a sheriff beat the bejeezus out of a Bills fan who did nothing but open his mouth to stave off another person's beating . It was all caught on camera, and now, the County and Sheriff are paying dearly for his stupidity.
Sadly, cell phone cameras haven't brought too much light to good cops. And I'm not saying there are no good cops or that it's the fault of the good cops. It's human nature. It's "if it bleeds it leads" and then there is the famous Mark Anthony quote from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar to remind us that the more things change the more they remain the same:

The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones.
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Sadly, cell phone cameras haven't brought too much light to good cops. And I'm not saying there are no good cops or that it's the fault of the good cops. It's human nature. It's "if it bleeds it leads" and then there is the famous Mark Anthony quote from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar to remind us that the more things change the more they remain the same:

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It has become a tougher job now. I wouldn't want to do it.
Every job is so micromanaged now though, so ya.... Times have changed but they do stay the same.
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My point exactly.
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We could expand the NFL and NBA and have a team in every city in America.
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We could expand the NFL and NBA and have a team in every city in America.
Funny, but bad.
Too many crack heads and winos.
Ethnic cleansing... Now there's a final solution.
It seems that the Ultra right wingers are all in for that.
That didn't quite work out throughout history though.
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