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Old 12-08-2020, 9:31am   #1
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Default Police raid the home of Covid 19 Tracker creator

I guess they didn't like the info she was putting out?

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Florida police have raided the home of data scientist Rebekah Jones, who built the state's official Covid-19 database.

Ms Jones has accused the US Department of Health of manipulating virus data in order to relax pandemic restrictions.
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It appears to be about a hack of the state's emergency health alert system, which happened from her home months after she was fired, and not about the info she's putting out. Facts matter.
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It appears to be about a hack of the state's emergency health alert system, which happened from her home months after she was fired, and not about the info she's putting out. Facts matter.
Sure, that's what they say.

Did I ask for your opinion??? I have access to alternate facts.
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It appears to be about a hack of the state's emergency health alert system, which happened from her home months after she was fired, and not about the info she's putting out. Facts matter.
I hear ya.... but all we know is that they claim there was a hack of the state's emergency health alert system from her house.
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I saw the video, and at first blush, it does look bad, raiding the house with guns drawn over something that, however valid, isn't violent in nature. Once she opened the door and told them her husband and kids were in the house, what did they think was going to happen? The husband upstairs trying to shove her computer down the toilet? The kids were going to smash computers with hammers? I mean, I don't know who these people are or the circumstances, but they aren't the Clintons.

Now, having said that, if they had a both legal AND legitimate reason to be there, then I doubt any laws were broken in the raid. Still, there was a definite intimidation factor going there when the gun was unholstered.
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Now, having said that, if they had a both legal AND legitimate reason to be there, then I doubt any laws were broken in the raid. Still, there was a definite intimidation factor going there when the gun was unholstered.
They had a search warrant, so they had "both legal AND legitimate reason to be there."

She describes herself as "an American data scientist, geographer, and whistleblower." She was fired in May. Of course, she claims the state had no justification to fire her except to cover things up. As in all terminations, the state cannot comment on why she was fired so all we will get is one side of that part.
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Sure, that's what they say.

Did I ask for your opinion??? I have access to alternate facts.
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They had a search warrant, so they had "both legal AND legitimate reason to be there."

She describes herself as "an American data scientist, geographer, and whistleblower." She was fired in May. Of course, she claims the state had no justification to fire her except to cover things up. As in all terminations, the state cannot comment on why she was fired so all we will get is one side of that part.
A search warrant is evidence that they had both legal and legitimate reason to be there IF the warrant was legally obtained. There was a pretty infamous case in Houston a couple of years ago where a HPD drug raid team shot and killed an older husband and wife couple and their dog, only to find out that the cop who got the warrant lied about everything. They were innocent citizens, no criminal convictions, really. We STILL to this day don't know exactly why they were targeted, or why they ended up dead.

You can search for the Tuttles if you have interest. There was an allegation that the husband shot at the cops, but the police can't seem to produce a gun, among other irregularities.

Edit: We could also discuss the illegality of the Carter Page/Trump team FISA warrants. The FISA court itself said at least some of them were illegal, yet no one got arrested for that. Oopsie. But still, were those warrants legal and legitimate?
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A search warrant is evidence that they had both legal and legitimate reason to be there IF the warrant was legally obtained. There was a pretty infamous case in Houston a couple of years ago where a HPD drug raid team shot and killed an older husband and wife couple and their dog, only to find out that the cop who got the warrant lied about everything. They were innocent citizens, no criminal convictions, really. We STILL to this day don't know exactly why they were targeted, or why they ended up dead.

You can search for the Tuttles if you have interest. There was an allegation that the husband shot at the cops, but the police can't seem to produce a gun, among other irregularities.
Huh? Nobody was shot or hurt in this case. The vast majority of search warrants are legally obtained. That is for a court to decide if she alleges it wasn't legal. I'm no computer expert but I suspect it's easy to prove whether the hacking happened from her home or not, and they can probably recover concrete evidence from the electronics they seized.

She claims the state is manipulating the numbers of cases and deaths to relax restrictions here in FL. We've never had Draconian restrictions like many states, so I'm not sure what her real complaint is. We'll never know why she was fired, but she appealed that and lost.
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Huh? Nobody was shot or hurt in this case. The vast majority of search warrants are legally obtained. That is for a court to decide if she alleges it wasn't legal. I'm no computer expert but I suspect it's easy to prove whether the hacking happened from her home or not, and they can probably recover concrete evidence from the electronics they seized.

She claims the state is manipulating the numbers of cases and deaths to relax restrictions here in FL. We've never had Draconian restrictions like many states, so I'm not sure what her real complaint is. We'll never know why she was fired, but she appealed that and lost.
Concrete evidence?? I think we need Dave from the other place to weigh in on that.
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Concrete evidence?? I think we need Dave from the other place to weigh in on that.
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It appears to be about a hack of the state's emergency health alert system, which happened from her home months after she was fired, and not about the info she's putting out. Facts matter.
Florida’s justification for raiding COVID data whistleblower Rebekah Jones is looking a little shaky

https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/9/2...data-dashboard

Is it unauthorized access if it’s a public email??

On Tuesday, Florida state police entered the home of Rebekah Jones with guns drawn, seizing her computer and phone, in an attempt to prove that she’d sent an unauthorized “group text” through “a Department of Health messaging system” that is “to be used for emergencies only,” according to authorities.

There are now two reasons why that’s significant. First, as we reported at the time, Jones isn’t just any former Florida Department of Health employee: she’s the whistleblower who built Florida’s once-celebrated COVID-19 tracking dashboard, then accused her bosses of ordering her to manipulate Florida’s data to justify reopening the state.

Second, it’s now come to our attention that the supposedly private messaging system that Jones might have accessed might have effectively just been an email address — an email address that the Florida Department of Health may have inadvertently published for anyone to see on the open web.

As Ars Technica reports, Redditors discovered that not only does the Florida Department of Health have a single shared username and password, but that username and password is also freely accessible on the web. Here’s a redacted screenshot that Ars captured of just one of at least seven PDFs that contain the information, PDFs that I also easily found with a Google search. All of them are still online at the time I type these words:



But it’s not just the username and password that are listed: these pages also have the email address of the exact group Florida’s Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) claimed was hacked: “StateESF8.Planning.”

In the FDLE’s affidavit — which is how it got a search warrant for Jones’ home — the department characterizes StateESF8.Planning as a “multi-user account group” and talks about how Florida uses it to “coordinate the state’s health and medical resources, capabilities, and capacities.” That all sounds very official and important:



However, the publicly available usernames, passwords, and email addresses suggest it might have just been a bog-standard mailing list with an awful lot of users, not something particularly private or secure. The email address still appears to be valid, though the Florida webmail application no longer seems to be online.

None of this necessarily means that Jones didn’t send the message (though she vehemently denies she did). An FDLE agent under oath says the “group text” was specifically sent from a Comcast ID associated with her home address, and that’s why her home was raided.

But if Jones did happen to send an email to a giant mailing list she used to be part of, one listed on the open web, would that be a crime? (I am not a lawyer.)

I asked the FDLE to explain how it could have been accessed illegally. The Florida Department of Health didn’t respond to a request for comment.
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Florida’s justification for raiding COVID data whistleblower Rebekah Jones is looking a little shaky.

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Second, it’s now come to our attention that the supposedly private messaging system that Jones might have accessed might have effectively just been an email address — an email address that the Florida Department of Health may have inadvertently published for anyone to see on the open web.
Yeah, wild-ass guessing is news.



I'll wait for actual facts before I judge her or the state.
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She's a flaming liberal whistleblower, so no. But for you:
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Yeah, wild-ass guessing is news.



I'll wait for actual facts before I judge her or the state.
It's just a link to a newer news story.

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