Healthcare Law ruled Unconstitutional

[prospero63]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

When did the US become a Republic? Link please on the official announcement.

Er. OK. I think we may have all just realized why you seem to be so perplexed by how this country works.

US Constitution

Section. 4.

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.

Ok so you say the State will decide who in America gets coverage. The I say, the Government should decide who get assistance at the next disaster. And I want those F'en State if give back the Federal Assistance NOW!

No, that's not at all what I said. I said I thought Mitt Romney gave an awesome response. I agree with you on Federal Assistance though. By and large, I don't think it should exist.

My insurance is more than adequate; thank you and I have no problem paying more to help out my fellow Americans.

I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. The implication seems to be that since you don't mind paying more to help out your fellow Americans (I assume based on your response then that you voluntarily agree every year to give the US more money right? I mean, you now you can donate money to the Federal government above and beyond your normal taxes) that everyone else should also elect to do the same? I'm just not sure what your point here is, or what it has to do with the discussion at hand.

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by prospero63

Er. OK. I think we may have all just realized why you seem to be so perplexed by how this country works.

US Constitution

I just sent your response to my team in Kosice Slovakia.

I’ll try to get their response, once they stop laughing.

[prospero63]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

I just sent your response to my team in Kosice Slovakia.

I’ll try to get their response, once they stop laughing.

Huh?

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by prospero63

Huh?

The Republic of Slovakia ...

[prospero63]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

The Republic of Slovakia ...

I guess I'm missing the joke.

[mrvette]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

When did the US become a Republic? Link please on the official announcement.

Ok so you say the State will decide who in America gets coverage. The I say, the Government should decide who get assistance at the next disaster. And I want those F'en State if give back the Federal Assistance NOW!

My insurance is more than adequate; thank you and I have no problem paying more to help out my fellow Americans.

Two choices, you work for some .gov operation, OR you are a overpaid lawyer....which IS it??

no freeking way you can feel that way in any other occupations.....

unless maybe on the odd chance you are, really ARE, a died in the wool commie bastard....maybe 5% of the population is.....you a 5% er???

[Scissors]

Originally Posted by ChasC5

When did the US become a Republic? Link please on the official announcement.

September 17, 1787.

re·pub·lic noun \ri-ˈpə-blik\
Definition of REPUBLIC
1a (1) : a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president (2) : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government b (1) : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law (2) : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government c : a usually specified republican government of a political unit <the French Fourth Republic>
2: a body of persons freely engaged in a specified activity <the republic of letters>
3: a constituent political and territorial unit of the former nations of Czechoslovakia, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, or Yugoslavia

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by mrvette

Two choices, you work for some .gov operation, OR you are a overpaid lawyer....which IS it??

no freeking way you can feel that way in any other occupations.....

unless maybe on the odd chance you are, really ARE, a died in the wool commie bastard....maybe 5% of the population is.....you a 5% er???

Kinda angry ... Arn't Cha ...

[Z06PDQ]

Originally Posted by leec4ce

[Z06PDQ]

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/20...

CHARLES FRIED TELLS THE GOP WHAT IT DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR.... Harvard law professor Charles Fried, President Reagan's Solicitor General, doesn't love the Affordable Care Act, and isn't convinced it will work. But as a constitutional matter, Fried has no use for the right's arguments.

He'd written previously that "the health care law's enemies have no ally in the Constitution." Today, he elaborated on this point at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, calling the constitutional issue a "no-brainer."


"I am quite sure that the health care mandate is constitutional.... My authorities are not recent. They go back to John Marshall, who sat in the Virginia legislature at the time they ratified the Constitution, and who, in 1824, in Gibbons v. Ogden, said, regarding Congress' Commerce power, 'what is this power? It is the power to regulate. That is -- to proscribe the rule by which commerce is governed.' To my mind, that is the end of the story of the constitutional basis for the mandate.

"The mandate is a rule -- more accurately, 'part of a system of rules by which commerce is to be governed,' to quote Chief Justice Marshall. And if that weren't enough for you -- though it is enough for me -- you go back to Marshall in 1819, in McCulloch v. Maryland, where he said 'the powers given to the government imply the ordinary means of execution. The government which has the right to do an act' -- surely, to regulate health insurance -- "and has imposed on it the duty of performing that act, must, according to the dictates of reason, be allowed to select the means." And that is the Necessary and Proper Clause

[ChasC5]

Originally Posted by Z06PDQ

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/20...

CHARLES FRIED TELLS THE GOP WHAT IT DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR.... Harvard law professor Charles Fried, President Reagan's Solicitor General, doesn't love the Affordable Care Act, and isn't convinced it will work. But as a constitutional matter, Fried has no use for the right's arguments.

He'd written previously that "the health care law's enemies have no ally in the Constitution." Today, he elaborated on this point at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, calling the constitutional issue a "no-brainer."


"I am quite sure that the health care mandate is constitutional.... My authorities are not recent. They go back to John Marshall, who sat in the Virginia legislature at the time they ratified the Constitution, and who, in 1824, in Gibbons v. Ogden, said, regarding Congress' Commerce power, 'what is this power? It is the power to regulate. That is -- to proscribe the rule by which commerce is governed.' To my mind, that is the end of the story of the constitutional basis for the mandate.

"The mandate is a rule -- more accurately, 'part of a system of rules by which commerce is to be governed,' to quote Chief Justice Marshall. And if that weren't enough for you -- though it is enough for me -- you go back to Marshall in 1819, in McCulloch v. Maryland, where he said 'the powers given to the government imply the ordinary means of execution. The government which has the right to do an act' -- surely, to regulate health insurance -- "and has imposed on it the duty of performing that act, must, according to the dictates of reason, be allowed to select the means." And that is the Necessary and Proper Clause

That's going to piss someone off ...

[leec4ce]

Originally Posted by Z06PDQ

:awesome: