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[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

I do not know the actual shelf life on those items. MAybe one of our fact checker nerds could research that.

Assume masks that have plastic/filters etc have higher likelihood of deterioration.

I'm more inclined to think that the primary purpose of expiration dates on PPE is to sell more PPE, but I'm kinda cynical that way.

To me it's kinda like when you take your car in for an oil change and they put that little vinyl sticker on your windshield that says you need to come back for another oil change in 3 months or 3000 miles. It's complete BS, but people still fall for it.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by Strats-N-Vettes

The numbers will climb because we now know more people are positive than originally thought,
but,
not just because people are spreading it.

So how did all those people who are now testing positive get it if other people were not spreading it?

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

I would guess that much like many things manufactured these days, have a built in failure/expiration date for financial gain.

Sexy and smart.

[dvarapala]

Singapore managed to contain this virus without draconian lockdowns.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

Singapore managed to contain this virus without draconian lockdowns.

Ever been to Asia. Everyone has a mask there. It's a way of life there all the time.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by Murray

Just for anyone that doesn’t know you’re the problem here. Please read the dark words at the top. This is a screen grab from the article you’re referring to. Get someone to read it to you if needed.

Attachment 41652

So there it is, even though you say it didn’t happen

First, that is the article YOU are referring to, not me. You presented it as some sort of after-the-fact refutation of what I said, even though it totally doesn't.

Second, for a growth rate to be "exponential", it would have to double in that time frame multiple times.

Which really is kind of the point, that the media is labeling something "exponential" when it clearly isn't.

Think of it this way: I start making 5 widgets per day and stacking them up in my garage. After 4 days, my wife sees a pile of 20 widgets in the garage. 4 days later, she sees a pile of 40 widgets, and says "Oh my God! The pile is growing exponentially, and is doubling in size every 4 days!" Is she right?

[Mick]

Also, FWIW: Total case growth rate for yesterday was 8.1%. We are almost certainly NOT going to reach 400K cases in 5 days from crossing 200K.

[C3C7NIC]

Originally Posted by aerovette

Dang it! you beat me to it!

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Only 10% here who think they have it test positive.

We played golf today. I didn’t wear a mask.

So did I. Most of the golf courses are staying open this month, it's awesome. You're out there about as social distancy as can be, in your own cart or walking. Some people think it's terrible they are letting people golf, as they go to Walmart for the 40th time, grabbing a cart from the parking lot and touching five items before buying one.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

So did I. Most of the golf courses are staying open this month, it's awesome. You're out there about as social distancy as can be, in your own cart or walking. Some people think it's terrible they are letting people golf, as they go to Walmart for the 40th time, grabbing a cart from the parking lot and touching five items before buying one.

Yup, people here demanding they shut down golf courses. **** them.

Someday soon people will start to realize that this thing was way overhyped and we destroyed the economy for little gain.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Yup, people here demanding they shut down golf courses. **** them.

Someday soon people will start to realize that this thing was way overhyped and we destroyed the economy for little gain.

Clubhouses aren't open, and neither are most if not all the bathrooms. You definitely need to take care of #2 business before leaving the house. I'm not sure why everyone didn't already do that, because I've never once taken a crap at a golf course. But there are plenty that do apparently, if you've ever walked into a clubhouse men's room and gagged.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

Clubhouses aren't open, and neither are most if not all the bathrooms. You definitely need to take care of #2 business before leaving the house. I'm not sure why everyone didn't already do that, because I've never once taken a crap at a golf course. But there are plenty that do apparently, if you've ever walked into a clubhouse men's room and gagged.

So true.

Our clubhouse and pro shop are closed as well. One person to a cart except for families. Leave the pin in the hole. That's about all the special rules at our club right now and they keep saying they intend to stay open.

[simpleman68]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

Clubhouses aren't open, and neither are most if not all the bathrooms. You definitely need to take care of #2 business before leaving the house. I'm not sure why everyone didn't already do that, because I've never once taken a crap at a golf course. But there are plenty that do apparently, if you've ever walked into a clubhouse men's room and gagged.

Back in ~'99 a few of us took the business meeting to the course and were golfing at Mesquite club in Palm Springs. I'm a horrible golfer and thankfully the guy on my team was pretty damn good.

One of the guys on the other team, a CEO of one of the top food companies in the US, had the mud butt.

Around the 10th hole, he told us "you guys will have to finish the rest without me" and walked away with a stain the size of a baseball on the back of his shorts.
Scott

[MadInNc]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

Singapore managed to contain this virus without draconian lockdowns.

bullshit - go to min 26:00 in video

[Raazor]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

So true.

Our clubhouse and pro shop are closed as well. One person to a cart except for families. Leave the pin in the hole. That's about all the special rules at our club right now and they keep saying they intend to stay open.

In phoenix there's a round sponge next to the hole you have to hit. It bounces against the sponge and you pick up your ball. I guess to keep hands from touching the hole?

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by simpleman68

Back in ~'99 a few of us took the business meeting to the course and were golfing at Mesquite club in Palm Springs. I'm a horrible golfer and thankfully the guy on my team was pretty damn good.

One of the guys on the other team, a CEO of one of the top food companies in the US, had the mud butt.

Around the 10th hole, he told us "you guys will have to finish the rest without me" and walked away with a stain the size of a baseball on the back of his shorts.
Scott

Life lessons learned. I'll bet he was over 40.

Similar situation in San Antonio. A gurgle I thought was gas...was not. Fortunately the toxic waste was contained by the FOTL barrier. I ran across the street to a hotel, cleaned up and dumped the filter in the trash. Very embarrassing moment even though my wife was the only one aware.

(FOTL filter = Fruit of the Loom)

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Yup, people here demanding they shut down golf courses. **** them.

That makes about as much sense as closing liquor stores. What easier place to practice social distancing than on a gigantic field of grass?

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by Raazor

In phoenix there's a round sponge next to the hole you have to hit. It bounces against the sponge and you pick up your ball. I guess to keep hands from touching the hole?

Yup, similar here.

The number of cases, and more importantly the number of deaths, was just revised downward to about half of what they said a week ago would be the best case if we followed all the draconian rules. People are going to get really restless and pissed soon when they realize they've been lied to.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

That makes about as much sense as closing liquor stores. What easier place to practice social distancing than on a gigantic field of grass?

I agree, but there are some people that make it their business to look at what everyone else is doing and call the authorities if they don't like what others are doing. We have at least one of those here in the Barn.

[Strats-N-Vettes]

Originally Posted by MadInNc

bullshit - go to min 26:00 in video

He didn't watch it all...he's just here to argue (as usual).

"the governments response was blunt and swift, on Thur. gov. shut down bars, cinema, and night clubs until April. With news laws threatening 6mos. jail terms for people failing to keep a meter apart in public."