80% 20% explained by an expert.

[Aerovette]

@C3C7NIC

Are the deceased still able to transmit the disease? Are their bodies contagious?

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by aerovette

@C3C7NIC

Are the deceased still able to transmit the disease? Are their bodies contagious?

You plan on ****ing one of them?

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by z06psi

You plan on ****ing one of them?

Don't be concerned. You'll be dead and won't know the difference.

[BOTY]

Originally Posted by snide

WhoTF was making out with the tiger at the zoo?

[BOTY]

Originally Posted by z06psi

You plan on ****ing one of them?

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by aerovette

What others do is none of my business UNTIL it enters my bubble.

Shoot heroin while banging a Haitian with HIV. IDGAS. Until it disturbs me, have at it.

[dwjz06]

Originally Posted by aerovette

@C3C7NIC

Are the deceased still able to transmit the disease? Are their bodies contagious?

Originally Posted by z06psi

You plan on ****ing one of them?

Originally Posted by aerovette

Don't be concerned. You'll be dead and won't know the difference.

That escalated quickly Both of you sick fuqs need help!

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by dwjz06

That escalated quickly Both of you sick fuqs need help!

WTF are you talking about. He repeatedly said he wanted to **** dead people.

[BOTY]

Originally Posted by z06psi

WTF are you talking about. He repeatedly said he wanted to **** dead people.

Everybody has issues.

[Steve_R]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

Latest in a vaccine development

"The researchers also used a novel approach to deliver the drug, called a microneedle array, to increase potency. This array is a fingertip-sized patch of 400 tiny needles that delivers the spike protein pieces into the skin, where the immune reaction is strongest. The patch goes on like a Band-Aid and then the needles—which are made entirely of sugar and the protein pieces—simply dissolve into the skin."

https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/news/c...5NdW5IfiQN9_a8

Saw that on the news. How many years will it take the damn FDA to approve it or any other new drug or vaccine?

[C3C7NIC]

Originally Posted by aerovette

@C3C7NIC

Are the deceased still able to transmit the disease? Are their bodies contagious?

Good question. Would assume that since virus resides in the respiratory, ba confirmed GI tract, precautions should be taken.

Skimmed over an article about that very thing, but since I don’t deal with funeral science issues, I didn’t take the time to read.

[C3C7NIC]

So, a friend emailed this to me>


Conspiracy theory or tangible possibility?

https://youtu.be/fw4CcQg_1z4

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by z06psi

WTF are you talking about. He repeatedly said he wanted to **** dead people.

Not to sound shallow, but it depends on how hot they were.

[Raazor]

Originally Posted by Steve_R

Yup, similar here.

The number of cases, and more importantly the number of deaths, was just revised downward to about half of what they said a week ago would be the best case if we followed all the draconian rules. People are going to get really restless and pissed soon when they realize they've been lied to.

already happening.

[z06psi]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

So, a friend emailed this to me>


Conspiracy theory or tangible possibility?






https://youtu.be/fw4CcQg_1z4

This was to damage Trump and the trade war to get him out of office.


Been saying this since January.

[Cybercowboy]

Here's an interesting theory I read today.

COVID-19 patients die of pneumonia, right? Or do they actually? Are they dying of low oxygen levels and organ failure associated with that instead? Here's why that's plausible.

1. The virus binds with proteins in hemoglobin. This has the effect of releasing the iron ions present in that molecule, which is in our red blood cells of course.

2. In "normal" pneumonia it's typical for one lung to be more heavily infected/damaged than the other. This makes sense in traditional disease vectors that cause the disease. But COVID-19 patients who develop pneumonia have both lungs equally involved every time. The damage is more or less the same severity in each lung.

3. What could cause this? Well, free iron ions would end up in the lungs aveoli, those tiny sacs in the lungs that allow hemoglobin molecules to pick up oxygen. Or in other places but since the virus is in the lungs, that's where the iron is likely to end up. And it's highly reactive and oxidizes almost immediately, a tiny particle of rust in the lungs.

4. This sort of thing happens normally to everyone but on a much smaller scale. The body is able to deal with it. But with severe cases of COVID-19, the lungs get basically clogged up with rust. This is also associated with lower oxygen levels, causing the person to struggle to catch their breath. Putting them on a ventilator doesn't really fix this, and may make matters worse. You could put 100 healthy people on vents for 10 days and some would die. This isn't hard to figure out, forcing the lungs to expand again and again, the intrusive nature of the intra-tracheal tubes, and other complications could cause even a perfectly healthy person to die under such circumstances.

5. Now we look at this in conjunction with HCQ, not the fish tank cleaner, the real malaria drug. Malaria is a parasite that damages hemoglobin, causing the low oxygen situation similar to COVID-19. It works by inferring with the mechanism this parasite uses to bind with the protein cage that holds the iron ions vital to oxygen carrying capacity and poisonous to the body when freed. It interferes with the COVID-19 virus via a similar mechanism, keeping the hemoglobin's iron ions in their cages and still effective at carrying oxygen.

6. Adding some sort of strong antibiotic to HCQ helps the body deal with secondary infections that are part and parcel of serious lung congestion. But even on it's own it allows the hemoglobin to stay intact long enough for the patient's immune system to fight off the virus, stopping low-oxygen-induced organ failure which further weakens the immune system.

So they are essentially treating the wrong disease when they slam you on a ventilator. They should be giving you whole blood, not just plasma, and they should be at least giving you lots of oxygen. And HCQ, some compatible antibiotic, and zinc sulfate too because why not?

This sounds quite plausible, but I'm not a doctor.

[MadInNc]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

Here's an interesting theory I read today.

COVID-19 patients die of pneumonia, right? Or do they actually? Are they dying of low oxygen levels and organ failure associated with that instead? Here's why that's plausible.

1. The virus binds with proteins in hemoglobin. This has the effect of releasing the iron ions present in that molecule, which is in our red blood cells of course.

2. In "normal" pneumonia it's typical for one lung to be more heavily infected/damaged than the other. This makes sense in traditional disease vectors that cause the disease. But COVID-19 patients who develop pneumonia have both lungs equally involved every time. The damage is more or less the same severity in each lung.

3. What could cause this? Well, free iron ions would end up in the lungs aveoli, those tiny sacs in the lungs that allow hemoglobin molecules to pick up oxygen. Or in other places but since the virus is in the lungs, that's where the iron is likely to end up. And it's highly reactive and oxidizes almost immediately, a tiny particle of rust in the lungs.

4. This sort of thing happens normally to everyone but on a much smaller scale. The body is able to deal with it. But with severe cases of COVID-19, the lungs get basically clogged up with rust. This is also associated with lower oxygen levels, causing the person to struggle to catch their breath. Putting them on a ventilator doesn't really fix this, and may make matters worse. You could put 100 healthy people on vents for 10 days and some would die. This isn't hard to figure out, forcing the lungs to expand again and again, the intrusive nature of the intra-tracheal tubes, and other complications could cause even a perfectly healthy person to die under such circumstances.

5. Now we look at this in conjunction with HCQ, not the fish tank cleaner, the real malaria drug. Malaria is a parasite that damages hemoglobin, causing the low oxygen situation similar to COVID-19. It works by inferring with the mechanism this parasite uses to bind with the protein cage that holds the iron ions vital to oxygen carrying capacity and poisonous to the body when freed. It interferes with the COVID-19 virus via a similar mechanism, keeping the hemoglobin's iron ions in their cages and still effective at carrying oxygen.

6. Adding some sort of strong antibiotic to HCQ helps the body deal with secondary infections that are part and parcel of serious lung congestion. But even on it's own it allows the hemoglobin to stay intact long enough for the patient's immune system to fight off the virus, stopping low-oxygen-induced organ failure which further weakens the immune system.

So they are essentially treating the wrong disease when they slam you on a ventilator. They should be giving you whole blood, not just plasma, and they should be at least giving you lots of oxygen. And HCQ, some compatible antibiotic, and zinc sulfate too because why not?

This sounds quite plausible, but I'm not a doctor.

@BOTY should read this....

[Aerovette]

Cyber, this seems consistent with the evidence that ACE inhibitors seem to put patients in worse shape.

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by C3C7NIC

Latest in a vaccine development

"The researchers also used a novel approach to deliver the drug, called a microneedle array, to increase potency. This array is a fingertip-sized patch of 400 tiny needles that delivers the spike protein pieces into the skin, where the immune reaction is strongest. The patch goes on like a Band-Aid and then the needles—which are made entirely of sugar and the protein pieces—simply dissolve into the skin."

https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/news/c...5NdW5IfiQN9_a8

Too many carbs - would not use.

[Aerovette]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

Too many carbs - would not use.

Hold out for the Stevia version