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View Poll Results: Who do you blame for yesterday's debacle
President Trump for encouraging the attendance in DC 7 16.28%
The courts for tossing cases out without allowing a trial 13 30.23%
Far right-wing nut jobs 4 9.30%
Antifa plants within the group 17 39.53%
The Police that removed barricades and allowed the crowd to advance 8 18.60%
The head of security for leaving the Capitol under-manned/under proteced 7 16.28%
Media bias 10 23.26%
Other (explain) 6 13.95%
STFU z06psi 6 13.95%
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Old 01-07-2021, 9:29pm   #41
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I think what he is trying to say to you is that the government has insulated itself from the common citizen.

Their 9% approval rate shows that.
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I think what he is trying to say to you is that the government has insulated itself from the common citizen.

Their 9% approval rate shows that.
Yet we the people voted for all those assholes and installed them in those supposedly ultrasecure buildings to do our bidding, uninterrupted by things like Terrorist threats, Jihadists with AK-47s and guys with bombs strapped to their chests. We just showed the entire world that if you want to take DC down all you need to do is gin up a good protest and then rush the building. Great Job America!

EDIT: And if that's what Flange meant I hope he will stomp your cubes for speaking for him, and say it himself.
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Yet we the people voted for all those assholes and installed them in those supposedly ultrasecure buildings to do our bidding, uninterrupted by things like Terrorist threats, Jihadists with AK-47s and guys with bombs strapped to their chests. We just showed the entire world that if you want to take DC down all you need to do is gin up a good protest and then rush the building. Great Job America!
If the voting process is broke how do we change those people?
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If the voting process is broke how do we change those people?
You don't get it either I see. Let's just say for a minute I am a new upcoming Al Quaeda leader who wants to make my bones in a big way for less than 10K. I start a social network, spout some bullshit about whatever trouble I make up in my head and start calling people here out to protest. I do this in 6 or 8 cities, get some news coverage and then announce a big rally in DC. What follows is not as inconsequential as what happened last night... think more like Die Hard, or Washington is Down. Billions get spent each year war gaming and planning for any attack contingency in our Capital, and all those plans failed last night because somebody thought "social justice" won over Homeland Security.
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You don't get it either I see. Let's just say for a minute I am a new upcoming Al Quaeda leader who wants to make my bones in a big way for less than 10K. I start a social network, spout some bullshit about whatever trouble I make up in my head and start calling people here out to protest. I do this in 6 or 8 cities, get some news coverage and then announce a big rally in DC. What follows is not as inconsequential as what happened last night... think more like Die Hard, or Washington is Down. Billions get spent each year war gaming and planning for any attack contingency in our Capital, and all those plans failed last night because somebody thought "social justice" won over Homeland Security.
Ummm.. I spent 27 years in the active component military. I know what you said but actually the voting process being corrupt is way more dangerous than a terrorist attack.
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Ummm.. I spent 27 years in the active component military. I know what you said but actually the voting process being corrupt is way more dangerous than a terrorist attack.
Long term, perhaps but think what a Hans Gruber could have pulled off last night if he and his merry band of compatriots had overpowered the security inside the Capitol and held the houses hostage instead of simply vandalizing the joint and taking some selfies at the Speaker's desk? My point is the crowd outside should NEVER have been afforded the opportunity to get inside... to include piling corpses like cordwood in the doorways if things got that far out of hand.
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Long term, perhaps but think what a Hans Gruber could have pulled off last night if he and his merry band of compatriots had overpowered the security inside the Capitol and held the houses hostage instead of simply vandalizing the joint and taking some selfies at the Speaker's desk? My point is the crowd outside should NEVER have been afforded the opportunity to get inside... to include piling corpses like cordwood in the doorways if things got that far out of hand.
What killed most of the useless shitbags.... Oh no.

We don't kill our own citizens who are not armed last I heard regardless of what they're doing. Something about use of force...
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You mean like the rioting, looting, arson and assaults at all the “peaceful” BLM protests where LEOs stood by and watched? Why were all of those okay and this wasn’t?
What I have been saying for two days.
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So what do we do instead since we know a riot is about to (probably) ensue? We form a cordon around the Capitol that is 4 stages deep. Might take 5-8000 LEOs and National Guard. First wave keeps the direct approach for 5 or so blocks protestor free behind barricades, wearing riot gear and shields... taser and pepper spray enabled.
Second cordon at 4 blocks also in riot gear gets water cannons and tear gas plus previous load out.
Third wave at 1 block gets flashbangs and canine added to the arsenal.
Actual steps and entrances get beanbags and the doors guards get M4s with live ammo.
Don't shoot untill you see them overcome the guys in front of you.
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What killed most of the useless shitbags.... Oh no.

We don't kill our own citizens who are not armed last I heard regardless of what they're doing. Something about use of force...
They did. The woman they shot was unarmed. Climbing through a broken window. There's video.
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How about the Federal Court house attacked night after night with no one really charged for it.


Federal court house is no different than the capital building.
I would be OK if they gunned down all of these ****ers...
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So what do we do instead since we know a riot is about to (probably) ensue? We form a cordon around the Capitol that is 4 stages deep. Might take 5-8000 LEOs and National Guard. First wave keeps the direct approach for 5 or so blocks protestor free behind barricades, wearing riot gear and shields... taser and pepper spray enabled.
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Actual steps and entrances get beanbags and the doors guards get M4s with live ammo.
Don't shoot untill you see them overcome the guys in front of you.
Defund the police.
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I hope you are deliberately being obtuse... I would hate to think you are just stupid.
You are proving your stupidity in this thread. While you may think there is no evidence of voter fraud, it was committed against me personally. I am well aware of how they did it and am disgusted with folks like you who are too much of a ***** to think it can happen.
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You are proving your stupidity in this thread. While you may think there is no evidence of voter fraud, it was committed against me personally. I am well aware of how they did it and am disgusted with folks like you who are too much of a ***** to think it can happen.
What’s the story?
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You are proving your stupidity in this thread. While you may think there is no evidence of voter fraud, it was committed against me personally. I am well aware of how they did it and am disgusted with folks like you who are too much of a ***** to think it can happen.




Voter fraud arrests have been made in this state, this week.


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If the voting process is broke how do we change those people?
Public executions.
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What's the difference between a protest and a riot?
The Media!

Get it????????? THE MEDIA!
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What's the difference between a protest and a riot?

The Media!
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What’s the story?
I live in a small suburban town for the last 22 years. Have been registered to vote and vote in the same place every time. In 2016 I stood in line and when I got to the table to register they told me I was not in the book even though I could see my name. They made me fill out a provisional ballot and then never counted it. That was verified in the public record that my vote was never counted. I had my attorney send certified letters of complaint to the state the county and the local offices. In response they sent me copies of my voter registration and told me it was my fault for not showing up to vote. This year I went through the same procedure stood in line for over 3 hours and once again was told my name wasn't in the book. I could physically see it with my eyes. They told me I had to fill out a provisional. This time I had a number to call on the spot how to report voting fraud which I did. I also called the police. The police came and verified that my name was in the book and force them to let me vote. Or so I thought. How we vote the procedure was changed from closed voting booths to filling out a form and then they ran it through an electronic scanner. Once again the public record shows that my vote was not counted i e they didn't run it through the scanner. That is flat-out fraud. Is Democrats want to say it never happened there full of s*** and I'm f****** pissed off. F*** them and they're f****** lies
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