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Old 07-08-2013, 1:56pm   #1
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Default 101 MILLION people in America getting some form of Food assistance

101 Million Americans Receive Food Aid From Federal Gov’t… More Than Number of Private Sector Workers… Is It Fair For People On Food Stamps To Buy Prime Rib And Lobster While Working Families Barely Survive? | InvestmentWatch
And 98 Million work in the private sector.

While 101 Million is most likely wrong due to counting kids whose parents get food stamps and they get free breakfast and lunch PLUS the illegals taking their share this is just WRONG.

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The number of Americans receiving subsidized food assistance from the federal government has risen to 101 million, representing roughly a third of the U.S. population.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture estimates that a total of 101,000,000 people currently participate in at least one of the 15 food programs offered by the agency, at a cost of $114 billion in fiscal year 2012.

That means the number of Americans receiving food assistance has surpassed the number of private sector workers in the U.S.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), there were 97,180,000 full-time private sector workers in 2012.

The population of the U.S. is 316.2 million people, meaning nearly a third of Americans receive food aid from the government.

Of the 101 million receiving food benefits, a record 47 million Americans participated in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), commonly known as food stamps. The USDA describes SNAP as the “largest program in the domestic hunger safety net.”

- See more at: 101M Americans Get Food Aid from Federal Gov?t; More Than the Number of Private Sector Workers | CNS News

Record 23,116,441 American households on food stamps
The number of American households on food stamps reached a new record high in March, according to new data released by the Agriculture Department.

The March numbers the USDA released Friday reveal 23,116,441 households enrolled in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), or food stamps, each receiving an average monthly benefit of $274.30.

Record 23,116,441 households on food stamps | The Daily Caller
Is It Fair For People On Food Stamps To Buy Prime Rib And Lobster While Working Families Barely Survive?

Should we all quit working and jump on board the Obama gravy train? Of course I am being facetious, but when you are barely surviving does there come a point when it just becomes easier to give up and totally rely on the government? Today, the federal government runs nearly 80 different means-tested welfare programs, and many state and local governments have their own welfare programs on top of that. If you become an expert on those programs and you learn how to game the system, can you live more comfortably than someone that lives honestly and works as hard as they can and yet still makes less than 10 dollars an hour? Now, right from the outset of this article, let me make it abundantly clear that I do not believe that most people are abusing the system. As I have written about over and over, the number of Americans living in poverty is rapidly increasing because there are not enough jobs. There are not enough jobs because we are shipping millions of them out of the country to the other side of the globe, and we are also losing millions of jobs to technology. There have always been those that need our help, and because of the foolish decisions that we have made as a nation, the ranks of the poor will continue to expand. But it is also true that there are some people out there that are very brazenly abusing the system. For example, is it really fair for people on food stamps to buy prime rib and lobster while many working families barely survive? People like that are taking advantage of their fellow Americans, and they are making it harder for the people that really need the help to be able to get it.





Unfortunately, we are rapidly becoming an “entitlement society”. Close to half the country lives in a home that receives some sort of monetary benefits from the federal government each month at this point.

In particular, the food stamp program has experienced explosive growth in recent years. Since Obama has been president, the number of Americans on food stamps has grown by more than 49 percent, and more than 11,000 people a day have enrolled in the food stamp program since Obama entered the White House.

And if you can believe it, the number of Americans on food stamps now exceeds the entire population of Spain.

Will we all eventually be on food stamps?

Actually, the truth is that there are millions upon millions of hard working American families that are desperately trying to make it on their own and that don’t want to become financial dependents of the federal government. Unfortunately, it can be a little disheartening when you are barely making it from month to month and yet you see others using government benefit cards to buy luxury items.



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Makes me want to cry. What has become of a country that use to pride itself on self sufficiency and hard work? We are now a nation of leaches.

100 years ago we had no Federal income tax yet we could fight wars, build roads and had a vibrant economy. Now we have a Federal tax and more people are taking than paying.
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Once of the solutions to this would be to raise the minimum wage and close tax incentives for exporting jobs overseas, but I know none of you will have any of that.

See you later middle class, its a race to the bottom!
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Once of the solutions to this would be to raise the minimum wage and close tax incentives for exporting jobs overseas, but I know none of you will have any of that.

See you later middle class, its a race to the bottom!
Trade you on the min wage gig, IF you agree to shut down useless .gov agencies...like EPA, for starters, the list is VERY LONG.....layoffs for about 200k fed offices/workers......
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Once of the solutions to this would be to raise the minimum wage and close tax incentives for exporting jobs overseas, but I know none of you will have any of that.

See you later middle class, its a race to the bottom!
And reduce tax disincentives for repatriating money to the US, but I know you won't have any of that.

As for the mimimum wage, if you pay someone more than they produce in economic benefit, you go broke. Econ 101. Get a labor pool that's worth paying well and pay them well and things work out fine.
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Once of the solutions to this would be to raise the minimum wage and close tax incentives for exporting jobs overseas, but I know none of you will have any of that.

See you later middle class, its a race to the bottom!
What do you suggest the minimum wage be raised to?

What "tax incentive" do corporations get for moving jobs overseas? Should we end tax incentives for moving foreign jobs here?
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Once of the solutions to this would be to raise the minimum wage and close tax incentives for exporting jobs overseas, but I know none of you will have any of that.

See you later middle class, its a race to the bottom!
The better solution is to stop rewarding failure. But that's not going to happen because it will destroy the Dem political base.
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Trade you on the min wage gig, IF you agree to shut down useless .gov agencies...like EPA, for starters, the list is VERY LONG.....layoffs for about 200k fed offices/workers......
Gene, you are simply insane. The EPA is a vital part of the US, without it, our lakes would still be on fire.

I'm in the environmental business. Virtually NO COMPANY spends money on environmental compliance UNTIL THEY ARE FORCED TO. Without the EPA your St. Johns paper plant down the river would make where you live uninhabitable.

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And reduce tax disincentives for repatriating money to the US, but I know you won't have any of that.

As for the mimimum wage, if you pay someone more than they produce in economic benefit, you go broke. Econ 101. Get a labor pool that's worth paying well and pay them well and things work out fine.
One doesn't have anything to do with the other. But thank you for proving my point.
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One doesn't have anything to do with the other. But thank you for proving my point.
You had a point?

You said "close tax incentives for exporting jobs" but somehow think that the lower taxes on money earned in other contries and kept in other countries doesn't incentivize companies to move production offshore?

You posted a thought about minimum wage needing to be elevated without any expectations about increased productivity. You are therefore in favor of giving people money without them earning it. I posted a thought in favor of allowing people to keep more of the money they have earned if they bring it back to the US.

They may not be related in your mind, but each is equally relevant to the OP.

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Gene, you are simply insane. The EPA is a vital part of the US, without it, our lakes would still be on fire.

I'm in the environmental business. Virtually NO COMPANY spends money on environmental compliance UNTIL THEY ARE FORCED TO. Without the EPA your St. Johns paper plant down the river would make where you live uninhabitable.



One doesn't have anything to do with the other. But thank you for proving my point.
Bullshit, the Cleveland river I can't spell, was cleaned up decades ago....

it ALL can be handled on a local level.....EPA is a department of reDUNCEity department......the paper mill, no problem, so much water flooding out the river that mill adds nothing to the mix that billions of oak trees/pine trees/ various plantings don't add already......the river was brown/black with it to start with, a couple of gallons from some tree grinder are not going to make a shit/whit damn worth of difference.....you got rotten trees or you got a tree grinder, take your choice.....I"ll take the toilet paper and paper towels, thank you very much.....




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Ask the DC city government how well that living wage ordinance they just passed is working for them.
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See you later middle class, its a race to the bottom!
Yes, the solution is to artificially increase the value of labor, thereby decreasing the value of the dollar.



Raising minimum wage keeps failing. Let's double down! It's bound to work this time!
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Yes, the solution is to artificially increase the value of labor, thereby decreasing the value of the dollar.

... it's amazing that any person could be so completely ignorant to the most basic concepts of economics and so brain dead that this doesn't even begin to register.
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... it's amazing that any person could be so completely ignorant to the most basic concepts of economics and so brain dead that this doesn't even begin to register.
Oh, I believe some of them understand.

But when the goal is to bring down the upper class not bring up the lower class, weakening the dollar is the way you do it.

Others are just completely blind to the economics of it.

I'm just not sure which category Phil fits into.
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