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Old 04-19-2018, 1:24pm   #81
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This wouldn't happen if you had hung with the Ladyboys.
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Not large for the Philippines. She has one single sister but wants to keep her away from me, afraid of what the sister might try.
Pics of sister?
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(if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all....)
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This wouldn't happen if you had hung with the Ladyboys.
LOL, that is a fact and they were not obvious when I was there, they tended to over do it was the only reason I was able to pick them out.
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Nope, nor the gf, sorry
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Hoo boy. A train wreck would have to step it up to be on the same level as the issues in this thread.

Best of luck, bro.
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Gonna go out on a limb here and say it.

There is no baby.

She knows you well enough to realize how you would react if you were told there is a baby, and that's why she said it... to make you feel upset, just the same as she was when you broke up with her.

And to the extent she wants you to feel worse, she'll do whatever it takes to string you along with the idea that it's true as long as possible. Faked Positive Pregnancy test results "businesses" exist right here in the US, and I'm certain they abound in the PI too.

Throw in the remote possibility that she actually expected you to marry her before it became transparently obvious that she is not pregnant... and you have her motivations.
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In the meantime, don't beat yourself up over this.

What are the odds that she became pregnant at this point in time right now, when it serves her purposes in such a perverse manner?

Occam's razor says it's more likely than not that she made the story up.

So don't worry until you actually know beyond the show of a doubt whether or not she's pregnant.

With your child.
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Gonna go out on a limb here and say it.

There is no baby.

She knows you well enough to realize how you would react if you were told there is a baby, and that's why she said it... to make you feel upset, just the same as she was when you broke up with her.

And to the extent she wants you to feel worse, she'll do whatever it takes to string you along with the idea that it's true as long as possible. Faked Positive Pregnancy test results "businesses" exist right here in the US, and I'm certain they abound in the PI too.

Throw in the remote possibility that she actually expected you to marry her before it became transparently obvious that she is not pregnant... and you have her motivations.
That is what I think to. I have her convinced either way is okay with me and she knows I need proof so I will see what happens.

She made a commit about I will leave her if she isn't pregnant and I might have told her it doesn't matter, but it does.
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That is what I think to. I have her convinced either way is okay with me and she knows I need proof so I will see what happens.

She made a commit about I will leave her if she isn't pregnant and I might have told her it doesn't matter, but it does.
If she is not pregnant....that would be a second lie and a BIG one at that.

If that is the situation, time to cut the line.
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In the meantime, don't beat yourself up over this.

What are the odds that she became pregnant at this point in time right now, when it serves her purposes in such a perverse manner?

Occam's razor says it's more likely than not that she made the story up.

So don't worry until you actually know beyond the show of a doubt whether or not she's pregnant.

With your child.
I have made it clear, if she is pregnant DNA testing is next. I am not accepting some bullshit pic of a positive test by someone pissing on a stick, it has to be from a doctor which is easy to forge in the PI also, but DNA testing will be next.

Company I am going to use if needed is international, less likely to forge I am thinking.

She is a good girl, spent time with her and her family, but a lot at stake for her so I need to proceed smartly.
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If she is not pregnant....that would be a second lie and a BIG one at that.

If that is the situation, time to cut the line.
I agree and I decided the same thing, I need to ride this out until the official test on the 27th. She is worried I will leave her if she isn't pregnant, but based on this thread most can figure out what I am going to do if she lies to me again.
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I agree and I decided the same thing, I need to ride this out until the official test on the 27th. She is worried I will leave her if she isn't pregnant, but based on this thread most can figure out what I am going to do if she lies to me again.
Can I ask precisely how you know she is wondering if you will leave if she's not PG?

Did she ask the question, or did she say she is worried?


I think if she is wondering at all that means she is lying.
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Can I ask precisely how you know she is wondering if you will leave if she's not PG?

Did she ask the question, or did she say she is worried?


I think if she is wondering at all that means she is lying.
She asked me, flat out if I will leave her if she isn't pregnant, of course it doesn't matter to me I told her, I need the truth.


I am not assuming anything at this point. I do like her a lot but another lie will be it, regardless, but I have to have proof of pregnancy/DNA test, she knows.
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I'm giving it a 75% chance at this point she's lying.

I was giving it around 60% before you told me that.
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Can you have her send the Dna kit to you and then you can send it off for analysis?

Rather than her sending it directly.
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I'm giving it a 75% chance at this point she's lying.

I was giving it around 60% before you told me that.
I feel the same thing but need to ride it out at this point. As far as she knows it doesn't matter either way.
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Can you have her send the Dna kit to you and then you can send it off for analysis?

Rather than her sending it directly.
She can submit locally in the Philippines, they would get her and child's DNA and I can submit here in Germany, I would think this would be safe and it is an international company.
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I'd get a paternity lawyer, or a doctor, or someone besides myself determining the most foolproof way of doing this.

At the very least, I'd seek a qualified outside opinion of the reputability of the chosen company.
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