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Old 11-03-2023, 10:44am   #1
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To take a real and valid concern and turn it into racial bias.

This is a medical issue, not a race issue, or a bias issue.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/hea...s/71422349007/

Everything now must be framed in racial tones.

Should the meters have a warning, sure, but the way they frame it all now.

There are plenty of medical readings/devices which are specific for certain races but its due to biology not bias.

Nessel is probably the most dangerous liberal in Michigan, without her Whitmer would have no where near the power she does.
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Old 11-03-2023, 12:19pm   #2
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Ya as someone trained more in Lab than in Respiratory, I don't much like pulse-ox as a reliable measurement. Can sometimes put one of these on a door knob and get a reading.

Oxygen saturation may also be measured by puncturing a vessel and performing a chemical reaction and measurement. This would be 'ABGs" or arterial blood gases. More invasive, difficult, time consuming, and costly to do. Falls under federal law as a regulated laboratory test.

Or one can just use a pulse-ox device to get a quicky estimate. This is by federal law considered a "monitor," not a laboratory test. Upside: quick, cheap, easy. Downside: less reliable than ABGs.

Given the above, why have a cow about minor bias between races? It should already be well understood that any monitors are less accurate and less precise than actual ABGs. Much ado about nothing, as usual.
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Old 11-04-2023, 5:47pm   #3
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So, if i read this right, a bunch of AG's are telling the FDA to fix this somehow because the O2 readings among blacks are way off and causing problems and this is a bad thing?
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racial bias in pulse oximetry
The ****ing nimrods are going to put the Babylon Bee out of business. Nobody can make this kind of shit up.
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Straight from the person who resurrected racialism from the dead...
Saw a headline yesterday that oblaimy claimed capitalism promotes slavery.

Wanted to use a better word than racialism but according to dictionary.com:

0 results for racial prejudice
did you mean: social prejudice


Apparently the motto of socialism is damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead.

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Nessel the misandrist dyke can go eat a big bag of dicks.
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When do the lawsuits get filed??
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So, if i read this right, a bunch of AG's are telling the FDA to fix this somehow because the O2 readings among blacks are way off and causing problems and this is a bad thing?

Well its obvious you do not read it right.

They took something that is important, that the meters read differently in people of color, and wrapped it in some racial bias bullshit.

I believe they already have a warning for nail polish.
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So, if i read this right, a bunch of AG's are telling the FDA to fix this somehow because the O2 readings among blacks are way off and causing problems and this is a bad thing?
So the government should interfere between a patient and their doctor?
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So the government should interfere between a patient and their doctor?
What planet do you live on? They already do.

There are mandates/regulations attached to every procedure they do. The least of it involves mandated unnece$$ary testing, much it involves disallowed treatments, and some even requires them to act as government agents by reporting you to the authorities.

**** a bunch of back stabbing two-faced doctors.
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What planet do you live on? They already do.

There are mandates/regulations attached to every procedure they do. The least of it involves mandated unnece$$ary testing, much it involves disallowed treatments, and some even requires them to act as government agents by reporting you to the authorities.

**** a bunch of back stabbing two-faced doctors.

You missed my point. I was going somewhere with that
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