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Old 06-23-2015, 4:57pm   #1
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Default Do you even bother to argue with a homeopathic remedies person?

A friend of mine says she got 2 spider bites a week or so ago. She doesn't know what kind of spider, but that the bites were very painful with swelling. She used coconut oil with salt and baking soda to fight the poison of the spider bite along with Benadryl. She says she's now much better. According to her, her neighbor had a snake bite (again, unknown species) that was treated the same way.

This seems incredibly stupid to me, particularly when she says that if she had cancer she's treat it with a combination of "natural" remedies (a lemon and baking soda mix) together with scientific remedies. Problem with that, as I see it, who decides which natural remedy combined with which scientific remedy to use, when to combine the remedies, and what are the interactions? I don't think anyone knows those answers.
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I am a flaming homeopathic.


F'n FLAMING.


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A friend of mine says she got 2 spider bites a week or so ago. She doesn't know what kind of spider, but that the bites were very painful with swelling. She used coconut oil with salt and baking soda to fight the poison of the spider bite along with Benadryl. She says she's now much better. According to her, her neighbor had a snake bite (again, unknown species) that was treated the same way.

This seems incredibly stupid to me, particularly when she says that if she had cancer she's treat it with a combination of "natural" remedies (a lemon and baking soda mix) together with scientific remedies. Problem with that, as I see it, who decides which natural remedy combined with which scientific remedy to use, when to combine the remedies, and what are the interactions? I don't think anyone knows those answers.
To a homeopath, simply having homeopathic remedies in and of itself is sufficient.

Having effective homeopathic remedies is really not a going concern.

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Sea Six, you do realize I'm not talking about Homosexual medicine, don't you?
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Say what-with-the-who now?
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Old 06-23-2015, 5:24pm   #6
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Uhhh, Boy....
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Sea Six, you do realize I'm not talking about Homosexual medicine, don't you?
Sea's never been the same since the proctologist gave him an exam while having both hands on his shoulders.
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I get that all the time. "if you eat (insert flower, root, little tiny sticks, insect testicles) you won't need treatment."

I want to grab them by the neck and shout "DON'T YOU THINK I'VE RESEARCHED AND TRIED EVERY DAMN THING POSSIBLE TO AVOID THIS SHIT KILLING ME??!!!"

I had someone tell me yesterday that just thinking positive will cure me. OK, I'll just ignore the decades of science that says this shit is incurable and will kill you.

I'm not even negative about it. I just accept reality. Doesn't mean I'm fighting it with everything I've got.
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yeah, hospitals are built, doctors are educated, research is done, because we don't have enough baking soda to go around....

homeopathic: water infused hope.
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I am a flaming homeopathic.


F'n FLAMING.




Yo Homeo.. Sup?
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I get that all the time. "if you eat (insert flower, root, little tiny sticks, insect testicles) you won't need treatment."


We have Voodoo here..

Every now and then I hear in the news about a mangkukulam that was killed because someone thought they had put a spell on them..



Years ago a girl told me she had a dream that I got shot and kilt..

I was wearing a light blue colored T-shirt that night she said.

But I tricked them and never wear a light blue T-shirt after dark anymore.
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I'm not opposed to homeopathy. There is a philosophy that drugs seduce the mind while the body heals itself.

God knows I've done my share of mind seduction.
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To properly persuade a homeopath you have to use an extremely weak argument.
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Steve Jobs tried that. Ask him how it worked. Oh wait....
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I'm not opposed to homeopathy. There is a philosophy that drugs seduce the mind while the body heals itself.

God knows I've done my share of mind seduction.
and my mind has been sucked out....
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Traditional medicine and homeopathic remedies are not mutually exclusive.
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Are you a homeophobe?
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The only natural remedy that ever worked for me was when I suffered from virginity.
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Traditional medicine and homeopathic remedies are not mutually exclusive.

Just because something doesn't carry a big pharma patent doesn't mean it doesn't work. My friend from high school is an acupuncturist and qi gong healer. I'm probably the most cynical person here, but I can attest that.....the shit works. As my friend points out, Chinese medicine, herbs, acupuncture, qi gong, and things like that haven't persisted for thousands of years because they DON'T work. I'm assuming the same is true for homeopathy.


Personally, if I am sick, I want to explore ALL my options.
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Homeopathic remedies are made by taking some possibly effective ingredient and then diluting it until it's virtually undetectable. The thinking is this somehow tricks your body into healing itself, different starting ingredients will trick the body in different ways. It is, essentially, a targeted placebo. And, it will have the same effectiveness as giving someone a sugar pill and telling them it will fix that spider bite right up.
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