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Old 05-24-2023, 10:22am   #1
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Can a Building Official Deny Approval of a P.E.'s Work?

The short answer is no, not according to the law. Why? Simply put, building officials are not granted legal authority over registered design professionals(link is external). Rather, they only have authority with respect to enforcing specific provisions of the building code adopted into law in their jurisdiction. An analogy would be that a police officer does not have legal authority over a properly licensed attorney or district attorney.
https://sbcmag.info/news/2019/apr/ca...roval-pes-work

Architect or engineer
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Yet another; Smartest Guy in the Room post from the resident putz.

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An analogy would be that a police officer does not have legal authority over a properly licensed attorney or district attorney.
I see this as a very circumstantial statement.
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i used to have a PE license in FL. they are hard to deal with.
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i would love to see so called professional shitbird engineers out on jobs enforcing their design elements.
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i would love to see so called professional shitbird engineers out on jobs enforcing their design elements.
I've been on a whole lot of construction/demo/remediation projects with PE-stamped drawings, and have yet to see a PE in the field. They might get their shoes dirty.
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I've been on a whole lot of construction/demo/remediation projects with PE-stamped drawings, and have yet to see a PE in the field. They might get their shoes dirty.
Obviously neither one of you saw how the "engineer" handled the "mason" who did a piss poor job on a block foundation in another thread here.
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Obviously neither one of you saw how the "engineer" handled the "mason" who did a piss poor job on a block foundation in another thread here.
LOL. I just laugh at those photos. I sure as hell wouldn't post them on the internet unless it was to showcase shitty workmanship.
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i've gotten my boots plenty dirty over time. even in Antarctica.
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i've gotten my boots plenty dirty over time. even in Antarctica.
I have a whole set of clothes that Baby Doll required me to purchase, to keep that "yucky dirt" off my "good jeans".

Then I have a set under the spare tire in my car for the situations were the shit hits the fan during a site pre-survey or inspection.
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OJ would find that statement^ amusing.
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I have a whole set of clothes that Baby Doll required me to purchase, to keep that "yucky dirt" off my "good jeans".

Then I have a set under the spare tire
in my car for the situations were the shit hits the fan during a site pre-survey or inspection.
After a couple problems early in my construction career I always carried a full change of clothes in my truck including boots. Winter I carried heaver clothes, summer much lighter. Working around nasty chemicals and deluge type sprinkler systems it was a good idea. Also as a welder burned up some clothes-
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This thread is an amusing attempt for Yadkin to toot his elitist horn. And of course he is wrong.

An architect or engineer is just another vendor as far as the contractor and owner is concerned. They provide a service or product that is part of the project. So does the plumber and carpenter and so does the lumber yard. And they have no authority over anyone or the construction project or site.

The building official is a necessary evil and a complete nobody in the big picture of any project.

The assertion that one particular party is "over" the other or the rest is pure arrogance.
Fact is, a very good and successful project consists of a team. I have been part of many and have built many. And not one did we tolerate that level of elitism.

While no single vendor or tradesman or supplier or entity is "over" another...
No one on the project has a larger responsibility than the GC. He reports directly to the owner and he is at the helm...so in that regard, he does have the ultimate authority.
He is the party responsible to deliver the project on budget and on time per the agreed upon specifications.

The buck literally stops on his desk. He gets few accolades. When things go wrong it's his responsibility to make it right. When things go right it's almost always someone else who get the praise.

[Of course I know this thread was bait, and I took a bite. I had a light lunch so what the hell ]
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you can design, engineer and manage the construction of the most beautiful building in the world, but a simple, most lowly vendor can really feck up the plans and schedule
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