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Old 05-24-2023, 2:23pm   #61
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Exactly my point. Like a relationship both parties need to get along (for the most part). Trump way too extreme, desantis is trump lite. Lets get back to the good republican party!!!
They didn’t and still don’t because he couldn’t be bribed with sex or money like most career politicians can. He showed that one could actually solve problems versus talking about them endlessly. DeSantis may not be as bad as some like Romney but if he continues as governor, continues to do decent in Florida, then he will be an easy yes vote in 2028.
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Well, if nothing else, the Republican primary will be interesting now. We don't know who is going to win...heck, maybe even someone not named Trump or DeSantis will win (not likely, but you just never know).

Given the current candidates, I'll vote for DeSantis in the primary and whomever gets the nomination in the general election.

My main point (which I know I'm repeating) is that DeSantis has a much better chance of beating Biden or whomever they get to replace Biden. Trump can't do any of the cleaning house some of y'all think he will do if he doesn't win and chances are he will not win.

So, go vote for whomever you'd like in the primary....and then vote for DeSantis in the general election against the democrats.
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Well, if nothing else, the Republican primary will be interesting now. We don't know who is going to win...heck, maybe even someone not named Trump or DeSantis will win (not likely, but you just never know).

Given the current candidates, I'll vote for DeSantis in the primary and whomever gets the nomination in the general election.

My main point (which I know I'm repeating) is that DeSantis has a much better chance of beating Biden or whomever they get to replace Biden. Trump can't do any of the cleaning house some of y'all think he will do if he doesn't win and chances are he will not win.

So, go vote for whomever you'd like in the primary....and then vote for DeSantis in the general election against the democrats.
What you are forgetting is that tomorrow morning the DeSantis hate tour begins.

The democrats and their media partners (along with the deep state and justice department as needed) will convince most sheeple that DeSantis is Hitler and his darling wife is a New Orleans whore.
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What you are forgetting is that tomorrow morning the DeSantis hate tour begins.

The democrats and their media partners (along with the deep state and justice department as needed) will convince most sheeple that DeSantis is Hitler and his darling wife is a New Orleans whore.
All the democrats and the media will have to do is look at Trump's Truth Social account for attacks and lies to use against DeSantis.

Also, they (and Trump) have been attacking him for months.
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All the democrats and the media will have to do is look at Trump's Truth Social account for attacks and lies to use against DeSantis.

Also, they (and Trump) have been attacking him for months.
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I'm confident DeSantis has an idea of what is coming and will be ready. He's a smart dude and has great people working with him.
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What you are forgetting is that tomorrow morning the DeSantis hate tour begins.

The democrats and their media partners (along with the deep state and justice department as needed) will convince most sheeple that DeSantis is Hitler and his darling wife is a New Orleans whore.
DeSantis raped me when I visited Florida. I've been too traumatized to speak up until now. The fact that he's now running for president is just a happy coincidence. Also, I have it on good authority that Ron is colluding with foreign countries to interfere in the election, he cheated on his wife, and he has unreported gambling winnings. Also, and you heard it here first, he committed campaign finance violations that, unlike O6ama, Hillary, Bush, and everyone else who pays a fine, need to be punished criminally, with jail time. That indictment is coming, trust me.

And now with all that, how can you support Ron? He has waaay too much baggage. Wouldn't it be better to find another candidate who doesn't have that baggage?
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All the democrats and the media will have to do is look at Trump's Truth Social account for attacks and lies to use against DeSantis.

Also, they (and Trump) have been attacking him for months.
Fair point that Trump taunted DeSantis first. That was, and is wrong. And it wasn't smart, an unforced error, you might say.


Edit: Still, I can't blame Trump for being salty. Trump backed Ron, and now sees Ron surrounding himself by all the R party folks that opposed Trump when he was president. Anyone would see Ron palling around with Paul Ryan, for example, as a slap in the face.
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DeSantis raped me when I visited Florida. I've been too traumatized to speak up until now. The fact that he's now running for president is just a happy coincidence. Also, I have it on good authority that Ron is colluding with foreign countries to interfere in the election, he cheated on his wife, and he has unreported gambling winnings. Also, and you heard it here first, he committed campaign finance violations that, unlike O6ama, Hillary, Bush, and everyone else who pays a fine, need to be punished criminally, with jail time. That indictment is coming, trust me.

And now with all that, how can you support Ron? He has waaay too much baggage. Wouldn't it be better to find another candidate who doesn't have that baggage?
I'm confident DeSantis has an idea of what is coming and will be ready. He's a smart dude and has great people working with him.
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Fair point that Trump taunted DeSantis first. That was, and is wrong. And it wasn't smart, an unforced error, you might say.
Not just first, but basically non-stop for months and DeSantis has barely even acknowledged it (which is the proper way to handle it, I think).
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Ok I misunderstood you.

I think DeSantis is making a YUUGE mistake to get into this race.
He's betting that Trump will self-destruct and hand him the nomination.
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All this "Didn't do what he said" bullshit can go straight up your dumb asses.

I want to watch you take out a chess board and sit down to play a game. Just as you start playing, have some kids come in screaming, then your neighbor shooting fireworks, then the lights flashing on and off, then a crowd comes in and starts partying and playing loud music and bumping you and the table. After 6 hours they start bitching at you because you aren't winning the game.
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I'm confident DeSantis has an idea of what is coming and will be ready. He's a smart dude and has great people working with him.
Trump is a smart guy with more experience than DeSantis, and Trump couldn't stop what happened and is happening. And Trump has a lot more money than DeSantis. DeSantis isn't some kind of (pun intended) Teflon Don that can just shake off the same kind of terror pogrom inflicted on Trump. His people will be targeted, some will flip on him like Cohen flipped on Trump, DeSantis will be under constant, unceasing attack, lawfare, criminal investigations, indictments, IRS auditing, MSM and social media running constant, breathtaking bullshit stories about Ron eating babies or whatever. It's a juggernaut that felled Trump....you think DeSantis will fare any better, or is it more likely DeSantis will fall in line....continuing the Ukraine War, continuing to sell out our country to foreign countries, etc.?
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Once he announces, EVERY action taken after that point will be what his campaign people and the deep pockets tell him to do. He'll be pushed to influence polls, play just right of center, no huge sweeping motions. He'll have his wings clipped/nuts taken for sure.
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Once he announces, EVERY action taken after that point will be what his campaign people and the deep pockets tell him to do. He'll be pushed to influence polls, play just right of center, no huge sweeping motions. He'll have his wings clipped/nuts taken for sure.
This. The Chamber of Commerce Republicans are loving flooding the US with cheap, exploitable labor. Pretty sure DeSantis will be instructed to cool it with the "anti-immigrant" (read:anti-illegal alien) rhetoric and policy.

That's just ONE example. Trump, on the other hand, has already made his bones on this issue. When he tells you he doesn't want illegals here or coming here, he's show he is a fighter for that cause. Ask the Border Patrol and ICE.

Ask the BP and ICE how it's going now.
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All this "Didn't do what he said" bullshit can go straight up your dumb asses.

I want to watch you take out a chess board and sit down to play a game. Just as you start playing, have some kids come in screaming, then your neighbor shooting fireworks, then the lights flashing on and off, then a crowd comes in and starts partying and playing loud music and bumping you and the table. After 6 hours they start bitching at you because you aren't winning the game.
Is that your argument for why Trump should get the republican nomination? If so, you may want to consider thinking just a bit deeper about the subject.
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Trump is a smart guy with more experience than DeSantis, and Trump couldn't stop what happened and is happening. And Trump has a lot more money than DeSantis. DeSantis isn't some kind of (pun intended) Teflon Don that can just shake off the same kind of terror pogrom inflicted on Trump. His people will be targeted, some will flip on him like Cohen flipped on Trump, DeSantis will be under constant, unceasing attack, lawfare, criminal investigations, indictments, IRS auditing, MSM and social media running constant, breathtaking bullshit stories about Ron eating babies or whatever. It's a juggernaut that felled Trump....you think DeSantis will fare any better, or is it more likely DeSantis will fall in line....continuing the Ukraine War, continuing to sell out our country to foreign countries, etc.?
Simple answer...we don't know exactly how DeSantis will be as POTUS. We have a good idea how Trump was as POTUS and some of that was good and some of that was bad. Given how effective DeSantis has been in Florida, I think he'll do just fine.
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Got any proof of any of that? I'm guessing no.
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Got any proof of any of that? I'm guessing no.
It's a good assumption. One that we know is not so with Trump.
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