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Old 05-23-2023, 6:24pm   #21
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Voting for Biden???
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Why does this bother you and larry? Perhaps an X vendor either way it doesnt matter...
Not bothered just curious.
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Indeed.

We voted for him as governor. His term ends in 2027. Kind of a slap in our faces that he's going to abandon his post and run for POTUS.
Anyone with even a passing interest in politics knew DeSantis running was a possibility during his last election.
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Anyone with even a passing interest in politics knew DeSantis running was a possibility during his last election.
Apparently the good people of Florida didn't know that. If they knew they were electing a governor for a couple of years, then he's gone, they might have chosen a candidate willing to fulfill the term of office he signed up for.
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They just announced trumps trial in nyc will be in march.

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Dont forget jack smith and the special counsel either, then the Georgia election case! Plus because trump shot his mouth off in the cnn interview, Eg carroll is taking him back to court for more money. LMFAO Rubes!!!

See, this is why I'm not a Christian, because that Jesus guy, He must have been doing some pretty bad stuff to be nailed to a cross and left to die. I mean, there must have been justification for that. So I'd never consider following Him because of his legal troubles. I mean, it's not like He was unjustly persecuted or something......
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Are you seriously comparing Donald ****ing Trump to Jesus Christ?
It's been done here before.
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Voted Republican my entire life and nothing has changed. If Trump is the Republican nominee, he has my vote.
My issue is that he uses a smear campaign against fellow Republican's and if he doesn't win as the nominee, it hurts the party. He needs to stay with the issues that Americans are interested in, not if a fellow Republican is an asshole. Stop the name calling.
What has Trump done to convince voters that may have been on the fence in the last election to change their mind for this election and to vote for him now?
If many female voters didn't vote for him the last time and given his recent loss of a sexual harassment lawsuit, are those females going to vote for him now? Sure, he can appeal the verdict but that will take time, way past the election, and most females have great memories and never forget shit. Ask your wife! If they didn't vote for him the last time, he has doesn't done anything to change their mind. Plus, quit the name calling of his accusers.
He needs to run on his record as president and what happened to the country during his 4 years, ie; great economy, better border issues, status a respected world leader and many other positive issues. My concern is that he will resort to what he considers his winning ways of name calling his opponents. It worked for the first election but not the second time.
Trump needs to stop the negative personal rhetoric and stick to the issues.
I don't see that happening though and if he is the nominee, the Dumbocrats will pound him on that.
Just my .02
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Most all of us will vote Republican regardless of the candidate.
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Here and the CF I have no doubt (didnt happen last election). However at what point is the drama from him enough for you. Also your desantis is not much better like we talked about earlier.


I’d like an Eisenhower.
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I want someone to do things they say they will! Build a wall, kick out illegals. Stay out of the abortion issues etc. I think fundamentally we are on the same page, just not the same people.
I’d even settle for a Reagan. But 4 years of Trump sticking his finger in the eyes of the swamp and media would be fun.
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Most all of us will vote Republican regardless of the candidate.
I agree but Trump needs to change his ways to beat the Dumbocrats. Calling fellow Republicans names doesn't help his cause. Voters have great memories if Trump keeps calling his Republican opponents derogatory names, if he or someone else is the Republican nominee. Once again, just my .02
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But 4 years of Trump sticking his finger in the eyes of the swamp and media would be fun.
It would certainly be entertaining for a while. Then reality will set in that nothing is getting accomplished except executive orders that will be wiped out the second a democrat is elected POTUS again.

Trump just doesn't have it in him to make lasting change. He says he is a great negotiator yet he wasn't able to get many meaningful lasting things passed during his first term. Sure, Congress deserves part of the blame, no doubt. Problem is, if Trump wins (very unlikely), he'll be a lame duck on day one. Everyone in DC will know they can simply ignore him for 4 years and then he's done.

It'll be easy for him to stick his finger in the eyes of the swamp because he'll probably hire a bunch of them to run the country.
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It would certainly be entertaining for a while. Then reality will set in that nothing is getting accomplished except executive orders that will be wiped out the second a democrat is elected POTUS again.

Trump just doesn't have it in him to make lasting change. He says he is a great negotiator yet he wasn't able to get many meaningful lasting things passed during his first term. Sure, Congress deserves part of the blame, no doubt. Problem is, if Trump wins (very unlikely), he'll be a lame duck on day one. Everyone in DC will know they can simply ignore him for 4 years and then he's done.

It'll be easy for him to stick his finger in the eyes of the swamp because he'll probably hire a bunch of them to run the country.
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I’d even settle for a Reagan. But 4 years of Trump sticking his finger in the eyes of the swamp and media would be fun.
And major gov't gridlock and never-ending accusations and investigations, DeSantis has most of Trump's good points without the acerbic personality, plus he's a veteran - that will always go a long way with me.
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Most all of us will vote Republican regardless of the candidate.
That’s as bad as voting D regardless of the candidate. Innit. (A practice which has been roundly criticized here. ‘Sheep’ I believe it’s been called.)
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It would certainly be entertaining for a while. Then reality will set in that nothing is getting accomplished except executive orders that will be wiped out the second a democrat is elected POTUS again.

Trump just doesn't have it in him to make lasting change. He says he is a great negotiator yet he wasn't able to get many meaningful lasting things passed during his first term. Sure, Congress deserves part of the blame, no doubt. Problem is, if Trump wins (very unlikely), he'll be a lame duck on day one. Everyone in DC will know they can simply ignore him for 4 years and then he's done.

It'll be easy for him to stick his finger in the eyes of the swamp because he'll probably hire a bunch of them to run the country.
They deserve all the blame.

Trump did very well negotiating with foreign leaders. But domestically he got little done because the democrats and their media and justice dept partners convinced the rinos and never trumpers that Trump was a russian asset.

Democrats won that battle in Trumps congress (both houses)
Democrats won the midterm battle
Democrats won the 2020 battle and inserted Biden with corruption.

Set, point, match...Democrats.
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Huge mistake.
You are smarter than that Larry - you know this only moves the target from Trump to DeSantis until Trump makes his next move.
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