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Old 05-03-2011, 6:50am   #1
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bilmem What’s more American?

It’s hard to believe that the President and his Administration knew about where Osama for more than a months and planed this operation while the American Public was questioning his Love for is country America and his citizenship American. Now we’re starting to learn that Osama may have been in this place for more than 5 years.

Question for the forum … do some of you still believe President Obama doesn’t like America and not one of us?

Not trying to start a flaming war, I'm just wondering exactly what would it take for the President to do ot turn the conversation back to politics and policies and away from the de-legitimizing effort?
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This guy was under tooooo much pressure to do the right thing, unlike Klinton who passed on his opportunity.....so this one act turned out correct, so what??

we ALL glad obl in dead and shark food, but what is the response when they attack again?? hope we don't get more guys in there on the ground....

still think we can execute our foreign policy with a few subs in the area, close enough to take out ANY/ALL of their shit, without losing one American life....

and I STILL have a problem with that particular building existing there, and not being questioned.....someone on the surveillance teams not awake....should have picked up on that when it was being built.....
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This guy was under tooooo much pressure to do the right thing, unlike Klinton who passed on his opportunity.....so this one act turned out correct, so what??

we ALL glad obl in dead and shark food, but what is the response when they attack again?? hope we don't get more guys in there on the ground....

still think we can execute our foreign policy with a few subs in the area, close enough to take out ANY/ALL of their shit, without losing one American life....

and I STILL have a problem with that particular building existing there, and not being questioned.....someone on the surveillance teams not awake....should have picked up on that when it was being built.....
We're starting to hear that building as been there for "6" Years ...

That's SIX YEARS Folks ... NOT 26 Months
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Chas, I'm not a fan of many of President Obama's policies and I did not vote for him. I hope someone is fielded who would make a better President but so far I'm disappointed. The one thing I have figured out is there are a good number of people who feel a personal dislike for the President that at the very least borders on hatred. Why they feel this way can only be known by them.

To these people if the President were to personally cure cancer it would be some kind of conspiracy. They'd claim he only did it to get re-elected or that he enlisted the help of illegal aliens or whatever. To these people there is nothing he can do to convince them he has US interests at heart.

Further there is no sense discussing the issue with people like this. They will always claim the evidence has been faked, the motives are impure, there's a master plan, etc.

Fortunately I don't think these people are anywhere near a majority of the American people, just here.

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Chas, I'm not a fan of many of President Obama's policies and I did not vote for him. I hope someone is fielded who would make a better President but so far I'm disappointed. The one thing I have figured out is there are a good number of people who feel a personal dislike that at the very least borders on hatred. Why they feel this way can only be known by them.

To these people if the President was to personally cure cancer it would be some kind of conspiracy. They'd claim he only did it to get re-elected or that he enlisted the help of illegal aliens or whatever. To these people there is nothing he can do to convince them he has US interests at heart.

Further there is no sense discussing the issue with people like this. They will always claim the evidence has been faked, the motives are impure, there's a master plan, etc.

Fortunately I don't think these people are anywhere near a majority of the American people, just here.
Let's just hope that the President Obama can concentrate more on the Economy ... if he brings Un-employment down and improves the economy ... then who gives a shit what the haters think,
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Does he "like" the America which is a capitalist driven, freedom for all, non-government reliant, land of opportunity for all? No.

Does he "like" a socialistic, government reliant, elitist ruling, freedom for whom his group chooses? You bet.
Then vote for the other person in 2012.

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Let's just hope that the President Obama can concentrate more on the Economy ... if he brings Un-employment down and improves the economy ... then who gives a shit what the haters think,
That's IT in a nutshell.....but unlikely until he dumps the shit outta the .gov agencies, and that's not going to happen.....

ed, energy, EPA, mines, land mgmt, thousands need eliminated....I ain't holding my breath over that, would take a grenade proof determined congress and the prezidency to do that....

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That's IT in a nutshell.....but unlikely until he dumps the shit outta the .gov agencies, and that's not going to happen.....

ed, energy, EPA, mines, land mgmt, thousands need eliminated....I ain't holding my breath over that, would take a grenade proof determined congress and the prezidency to do that....

Remember, it's only been 27 months he has been in office ....

Osama was living in Luxury for way longer than that.
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Chas can you not comprehend that this president is not liked by conservatives because he is liberal? Do you deny he is liberal? If I liked liberalism, I'd be one, but I'm not.

He did the right thing over the weekend and I give him props for it. But that does not mean that I want his balls on my chin.
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Chas can you not comprehend that this president is not liked by conservatives because he is liberal? Do you deny he is liberal? If I liked liberalism, I'd be one, but I'm not.

He did the right thing over the weekend and I give him props for it. But that does not mean that I want his balls on my chin.
Oh yea ... I can easily see that from a mile away. I don't know "any" President who has had to go through what he has.

Wold you agree he is a Liberal who is further Right than any Democrat in your life time.

Also would you agree ... if a Republican won a election, they would be encourage to push and Conservative agenda.

Who in your life time has compromised more as a President?
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We're starting to hear that building as been there for "6" Years ...

That's SIX YEARS Folks ... NOT 26 Months
What is your point here exactly?
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What is your point here exactly?
Just the Facts Mam; just the Facts
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Oh yea ... I can easily see that from a mile away. I don't know "any" President who has had to go through what he has.

Wold you agree he is a Liberal who is further Right than any Democrat in your life time.
YHGTBSM. Let's start and end this conversation with Kennedy.
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Just the Facts Mam; just the Facts
That is a non-answer. I'll ask again. What is the point?
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No. He was far left and has had to move more toward the center as he gets into campaign mode. That's it.



Yes, until the American people spoke out at the ballot box in the mid-terms letting him/her know if he/she continued he'd be evicted.



Almost all have had to do compromising.
Sorry I was distracted by an interview with Condilizza Rice praising President Obama for his actions, and she said it puts to bead the questions that he can be Commander in Chef.

... back to your question;

My answer is this, 27 months isn't a Presidency nor enough to render a complete opinion on a Presidency ... two Presidential Terms is more than enough to render a opinion on a Presidency.

In short, I'll choose to read the entire book before being a critic.

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My answer is this, 27 months isn't a Presidency nor enough to render a complete opinion on a Presidency ... two Presidential Terms is more than enough to render a opinion on a Presidency.

In short, I'll choose to read the entire book before being a critic.

In 27 months he has increased the debt by almost as much as Bush did in the previous 2 terms and is spending at a rate 3x greater than Bush ever did.

Regardless of ANY other political viewpoint, the simple fact is that if he doesn't stop throwing money at everything there won't be an America left to judge. Sometimes you realize after a few pages that a book isn't worth reading.
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In 27 months he has increased the debt by almost as much as Bush did in the previous 2 terms and is spending at a rate 3x greater than Bush ever did.

Regardless of ANY other political viewpoint, the simple fact is that if he doesn't stop throwing money at everything there won't be an America left to judge. Sometimes you realize after a few pages that a book isn't worth reading.
Come-on RED, you're smarter than that, you know why this money was spent and why The President was forced to spend it. So everyone, let's stop playing politics and let's stop pretending that just because the White Elephant isn't in the Room anymore, don't mean that Record Size steaming pile of shit that was left behind was his.
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What channel was said interview?


I had no question.




It was enough for you all on the left to condem President Bush.



One term should be plenty for this PotUS.



Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I'm sure all of you using Chas account will be very objective.
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Let's get to 1 term first.

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..just because the White Elephant isn't in the Room anymore, don't mean that Record Size steaming pile of shit that was left behind was his.
WTF are you talking about? White elephant?
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Come-on RED, you're smarter than that, you know why this money was spent and why The President was forced to spend it.
I know why some of it was spent and why he was forced to spend some of it.

However he was not forced to spend NEARLY as much as he has. His answer to every problem is exactly the same. Throw money at it. That is not going to get us back on track. Period.

We might be strong enough as a people to come back in spite of that methodology, but it sure as hell won't be because of it.
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