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Old 10-03-2013, 11:17am   #1
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Default 625 wolves left in Montana, over 6000 permits to hunt them issued

Conservation groups are in an uproar over Montana’s decision to issue over 6000 permits to hunt the last 625 remaining wolves in the state. In addition to 6000 permits, the state loosened regulations governing the hunting of the animals.

This year, the fee for a license to kill a wolf in the state of Montana was dropped to only $19. Each hunter is allowed to kill up to five wolves, and the period in which they are hunted has been extended.

At the beginning of this year, there were only 625 wolves in Montana, a slight drop from the year before. If only 2.1% of hunters issued a permit this year reach their bag limit, the wolf will disappear from Montana altogether. As wolves are pack animals, a single hunter will likely be able to kill several wolves in a single trip.

In the 1990s, wolves in Montana were hunted to the point that Canadian wolves had to be brought in to supplement the numbers. State officials have decided to drive down the number of wolves in the state, though have not set a clear plan on the number where they would like the population’s numbers.

In stark contrast, neighboring Wyoming, which boasts roughly three times the number of wolves as Montana in a much smaller state, has cut the number of wolves that may be killed before hunting is ceased in half to help make certain the population is protected from over-hunting.

The Center for Biological Diversity released this video today, protesting Montana’s decision.


Read more: 625 wolves left in Montana, over 6000 permits to hunt them issued
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Old 10-03-2013, 11:30am   #2
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I have a friend in Idaho that raises cattle, wolves kill cattle. He's an environmental guy, but doesn't have much love for folks that put wolves before people.
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This is stupid. Just kill them off.
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What's the problem?


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What's the problem?


You and your silly facts.
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Before white men got there, the numbers were in the tens of thousands.

And they were JUST removed from the endangers species list for Montana.

But yea, your right. Every now and then they eat a cow so fuk them they have to die.
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Who in their right mind wouldn't care about wildlife conservation
and the resulting uproar and hunting/trapping sabotaging attempts from wildlife conservation groups like Earth First?

A Rider to HR 1473 (2011 fiscal budget bill, passed April 14th, signed by
Pres Obama April 15th, 2011) that removed most Wolves from the Federal endangered species list in the Rockies
was sponsored and added by Montana Senator Jon Tester (D) and approved by Democratic leadership in the US Senate.

Montana Senators that voted for the Bill (and Rider) - Tester (D) (author/sponsor), Baccus (D).
House of Representative voted against - Rehberg (R)

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Give guns to wolves so they can protect themselves.
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Who in their right mind wouldn't care about wildlife conservation
and the resulting uproar and hunting/trapping sabotaging attempts from wildlife conservation groups like Earth First?

A Rider to HR 1473 (2011 fiscal budget bill, passed April 14th, signed by
Pres Obama April 15th, 2011) that removed most Wolves from the Federal endangered species list in the Rockies
was sponsored and added by Montana Senator Jon Tester (D) and approved by Democratic leadership in the US Senate.

Montana Senators that voted for the Bill (and Rider) - Tester (D) (author/sponsor), Baccus (D).
House of Representative voted against - Rehberg (R)

Facts, like kryptonite to superman
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This is stupid. Just kill them off.
Bad idea. This is a neat illustration from National Geographic about why it's important to have wolves in the environment.

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I have a friend in Idaho that raises cattle, wolves kill cattle. He's an environmental guy, but doesn't have much love for folks that put wolves before people.
Interesting stance considering he is raising the cattle for slaughter more than likely.
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But yea, your right. Every now and then they eat a cow so fuk them they have to die.
How can I be "right", all I did was ask a question?

More facts about Montana wolf hunting:

In 2011, 18,689 licenses were issued, 166 wolves were killed.
In 2012, 18,889 licenses were issued, 128 wolves were killed.



This "news" you present tells us that (only) 6000 licenses have been issued this year, so all I can assume is that you want them to issue 12,000 additional permits as in previous years?
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Bad idea. This is a neat illustration from National Geographic about why it's important to have wolves in the environment.

Indeed.

Predators are an important part of the environment. Everyone, regardless of political affiliation, should be for the environment.
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How can I be "right", all I did was ask a question?

More facts about Montana wolf hunting:

In 2011, 18,689 licenses were issued, 166 wolves were killed.
In 2012, 18,889 licenses were issued, 128 wolves were killed.




This "news" you present tells us that (only) 6000 licenses have been issued this year, so all I can assume is that you want them to issue 12,000 additional permits as in previous years?
Considering that licenses are $ 19 a pop (pun intended), that's some pretty expensive wolf right there.
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Before white men got there, the numbers were in the tens of thousands.

And they were JUST removed from the endangers species list for Montana.

But yea, your right. Every now and then they eat a cow so fuk them they have to die.
I'm (barely) part Amerind. Fukc off whitey. I'm eating the cows, so take the wolves with you.

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Give guns to wolves so they can protect themselves.
Fk'ing Doug..


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Who in their right mind wouldn't care about wildlife conservation
and the resulting uproar and hunting/trapping sabotaging attempts from wildlife conservation groups like Earth First?

A Rider to HR 1473 (2011 fiscal budget bill, passed April 14th, signed by
Pres Obama April 15th, 2011) that removed most Wolves from the Federal endangered species list in the Rockies
was sponsored and added by Montana Senator Jon Tester (D) and approved by Democratic leadership in the US Senate.

Montana Senators that voted for the Bill (and Rider) - Tester (D) (author/sponsor), Baccus (D).
House of Representative voted against - Rehberg (R)


I remember when I lived in southern Ohio and it was illegal to kill Timber Rattlers because they were almost extinct.

Heck they were trying to re-populate those bastages....

I can see no reason why anyone would want to save a critter like this that can kill children, so I would have no problems at all with killing every one I ever saw.
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Before white men got there, the numbers were in the tens of thousands.

And they were JUST removed from the endangers species list for Montana.

But yea, your right. Every now and then they eat a cow so fuk them they have to die.
Or an elk. Greenieweenie conundrum:

State wildlife officials ramp up efforts to reduce the predators’ population in response to public pressure over livestock attacks and declines in some elk herds.
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apparently wolves are hard to kill....
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Wolves are just pissed that their homeland was stolen from them by the elk.
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