Trump is right...

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Craig

The whole immigration thing has been such a red-herring; it's the least of our problems.

Come visit me in Houston, and let me show you around...to the hospitals, to the WIC and welfare offices, to the food stamp offices, and if you'd like, we can schedule you a ride along with HPD so you can see how many people are driving with no insurance, no license, etc.

Illegals are a HUGE problem and their anchor babies just cause more problems. We have enougb unskilled labor here without the millions of illegals adding to the problem.

[Millenium Vette]

Originally Posted by Craig

You keep coming back to giving it to Jeb; why work so hard t back an unpopular candidate?

Because it was the way back to DC and power for the Karl Roves et al of the GOP. They thought Jeb! was their meal ticket back in.

Originally Posted by Craig

The whole immigration thing has been such a red-herring; it's the least of our problems.

It's probably one of the biggest problems.

Originally Posted by Craig

Jeb isn't my favorite, but I've got to ask: Isn't not voting for him because of his last name just as lame as voting for Hillary because she's a woman, or Obama because he's black?

I agree, we should not let his last name be a deciding factor in our decision. The fact that he is a fvck is reason enough on its own. Plus, in his own words he said he could be doing a lot of cool things instead. It's time he pursued those cool things.

Originally Posted by Craig

Even if all of the conspiracy stuff is true, it doesn't change the fact that he isn't a good candidate for President. His inexperience, his lack of knowledge of the issues, his temperament, his thin-skin. He'll be a disaster, not that he has a chance of being elected.

Inexperience in what? Foreign affairs? Hillary is the most qualified candidate if all one is concerned about is a candidate's experience in dealing with foreign countries. Experience means little if someone was really bad at what they have done. I'll take my chances on someone like Trump.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Craig

Jeb isn't my favorite, but I've got to ask: Isn't not voting for him because of his last name just as lame as voting for Hillary because she's a woman, or Obama because he's black?

Voting for him is about the worst small-r republican thing an American could do. We don't need political dynasties, especially in the White House. It's bad enough to pass the Senatorial/Congressional torch around. Plus Jeb is a boring, squishy, establishment candidate who would do whatever the money guys told him.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Craig

Even if all of the conspiracy stuff is true, it doesn't change the fact that he isn't a good candidate for President. His inexperience, his lack of knowledge of the issues, his temperament, his thin-skin. He'll be a disaster, not that he has a chance of being elected.

The "conspiracy stuff" is simple fact. It's not even debatable. All the records are available. There's a huge amount of factual documentation, but it would have never seen sunlight had the GOPe's road map went along as they had it planned out.

As far as Trump's temperament, his thin-skin, whatever personality traits you don't like - he's a business man who has made payrolls, has built stuff, and is an extremely tough negotiator who actually loves America. That's what I'm looking for. He's saying "Enough of this bullshit! What are you people doing to this country? It has to stop!" Now, can he do it? Don't know. But the thing is, I think he'll actually try, unlike the others. It's either Trump, Bush, or Rubio at this point. And for Trump to lose, he will have to do that implode thing that the GOPe has been saying for six months plus will happen any minute now.

[Craig]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

The "conspiracy stuff" is simple fact.

Why isn't it on CNN?

[Craig]

Originally Posted by Millenium Vette

Inexperience in what? Foreign affairs? Hillary is the most qualified candidate if all one is concerned about is a candidate's experience in dealing with foreign countries. Experience means little if someone was really bad at what they have done. I'll take my chances on someone like Trump.

Bad experience is worse than no experience, I agree. But I've seen enough of Trump to believe he's just a bad experience waiting to happen.

[StaticCling]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

And for Trump to lose, he will have to do that implode thing that the GOPe has been saying for six months plus will happen any minute now.

I don't think that is possible quite frankly. He can do and say whatever the fUcK he wants and it only bolsters his ubiquitousness. Didn't show up at the debate? No biggy, the front page of every newspaper in the country still said:

TRUMP

I think Trump even said himself that there is no such thing as bad publicity. It's all good!

The General Electorate will vote for the Cult of Personality, that's why I think the guy is a total shoe in. And that is why Obama won too.

It sort of reminds me of this Seinfeld Episode

[Craig]

Originally Posted by chinaski

I think Trump even said himself that there is no such thing as bad publicity. It's all good!

It's almost like having David Lee Roth running for President...



...actually, it's EXACTLY like having David Lee Roth run for President.

[StaticCling]

Originally Posted by Craig

It's almost like having David Lee Roth running for President...



...actually, it's EXACTLY like having David Lee Roth run for President.

Uhh, no it's not. But I think you sort of get the idea I guess. Sort of. Not really.

You aren't going to be convinced either way, and I get that. But if you think that Rubio, Bush, Cruz or any other of those hacks have a snowballs chance in hell of getting elected in today's political climate, you are seriously out of touch.

With the Universities, Democratic Socialist (majority) controlled media, and generally clueless and doofus oriented don't know ass from hole in the ground happy happy joy joy average 'American' voter, the Donald is the only hope we have. At least temporarily.

I'm not voting for an Establishment Putz or a Socialist. And if 'The Donald' is the only hope to at least temporarily stymie our current path, then I am all for it.

[Fasglas]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

The "conspiracy stuff" is simple fact. It's not even debatable. All the records are available. There's a huge amount of factual documentation, but it would have never seen sunlight had the GOPe's road map went along as they had it planned out.

As far as Trump's temperament, his thin-skin, whatever personality traits you don't like - he's a business man who has made payrolls, has built stuff, and is an extremely tough negotiator who actually loves America. That's what I'm looking for. He's saying "Enough of this bullshit! What are you people doing to this country? It has to stop!" Now, can he do it? Don't know. But the thing is, I think he'll actually try, unlike the others. It's either Trump, Bush, or Rubio at this point. And for Trump to lose, he will have to do that implode thing that the GOPe has been saying for six months plus will happen any minute now.

Pretty much how I see it, as well.

Trump will make the effort. Something we haven't seen lately.

Novel idea.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Craig

Why isn't it on CNN?

LOL seriously.

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by chinaski

Uhh, no it's not. But I think you sort of get the idea I guess. Sort of. Not really.

You aren't going to be convinced either way, and I get that. But if you think that Rubio, Bush, Cruz or any other of those hacks have a snowballs chance in hell of getting elected in today's political climate, you are seriously out of touch.

With the Universities, Democratic Socialist (majority) controlled media, and generally clueless and doofus oriented don't know ass from hole in the ground happy happy joy joy average 'American' voter, the Donald is the only hope we have. At least temporarily.

I'm not voting for an Establishment Putz or a Socialist. And if 'The Donald' is the only hope to at least temporarily stymie our current path, then I am all for it.

Amen brother and Amen to Fasglas too.

[Cybercowboy]

Just so y'all know, Hillary is done for. How do I know? This is on the front page of reddit.

[Craig]

Originally Posted by chinaski

Uhh, no it's not. But I think you sort of get the idea I guess. Sort of. Not really.

You aren't going to be convinced either way, and I get that...

He can convince me easily, all he has to do is start saying shit more substinative than, "it's gonna be huge...Meygan is a bimbo...Rubio sweats....my poll numbers are awesome..." He's the low information candidate, he's going to have to be better than that to get my vote.

[Craig]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

LOL seriously.

Yeah...seriously.

[Craig]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

Just so y'all know, Hillary is done for. How do I know? This is on the front page of reddit.

Kind of funny, you think her supporters care..?

And yet, look at the crap Trump has said, and how his supporters have reacted...

[Cybercowboy]

Originally Posted by Craig

Kind of funny, you think her supporters care..?

And yet, look at the crap Trump has said, and how his supporters have reacted...

OK, well, all her supporters are there. It would be like announcing a meltdown of, oh, Ted Cruz, on Glenn Beck's Blaze site.

[boracayjohnny]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

Just so y'all know, Hillary is done for. How do I know? This is on the front page of reddit.

Anyone that has been around classified systems knows exactly she's dirty as fukk. Because she's ole C U Next Tuesday bag, she gets a pass for political/blackmail/wtfever reasons. I keep hoping, eventually, shit will catch up to her. Keep hope alive.

[boracayjohnny]

Originally Posted by Craig

Kind of funny, you think her supporters care..?

And yet, look at the crap Trump has said, and how his supporters have reacted...

It's kind of funny also how the D and R folks are all up in arms about Trump. True, he's a full on narcissist with a capital N. Yet, what are the other choices? Folks that play the game to get along. They have no concern the country goes to shit while their personal/political career hat is feathered.

Fukk it, vote Trump just to throw a monkey wrench in the middle of the game.

[Craig]

Originally Posted by Cybercowboy

OK, well, all her supporters are there. It would be like announcing a meltdown of, oh, Ted Cruz, on Glenn Beck's Blaze site.

I guess I don't see Reddit as a microcosm of American voters.