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Old 11-13-2021, 10:45pm   #1
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They can't even decide how long it is good for or even the effectiveness over time
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Vax was never to keep you from getting it just not dieing from it ajd yes they'll be boosters for the foreseeable future.
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In before @snide says "Let's Go Brandon."
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The vaccine is a joke and a poor one at that.

Big NO for me. Only if my job forces it, will I comply and so far, that's not going to happen.
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Vax was never to keep you from getting it just not dieing from it ajd yes they'll be boosters for the foreseeable future.
Do you have a link to support this? My wife claims that same thing, and I have challenged her to prove it. She has tried and failed.

The fact is, the initial intention of these vaccines was the same as every other vaccine, to render a greater than 50% of the inoculated immune to the disease. They failed.
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The Covid shots do not make a person immune from Covid. It only lessens the severity of the effects that it has on you.

Even if you get the shots you can still get and spread Covid.
Whether others have received the shot or not they can give you Covid.
Those not receiving the shots have no greater effect on you than those that have.
Not getting the shots puts the person not getting them at risk of having sever effects.
Mandating that a person gets the shots should be a personal decision.
Should be treated the same as a Flu shot.
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Read this last night:

“Mike was adamant that people know what happened to him that caused his early and unexpected death. Message from Mike: “Many nurses and non-nursing staff begged me and my wife to get the truth out to the public about the Covid-19 vaccines because the truth of deaths from the vaccine was being hidden within the medical profession. I promised I would get the message out. So, here is my message: I was afraid of getting the vaccine for fear that I might die. At the insistence of my doctor, I gave in to pressure to get vaccinated. On August 17th I received the Moderna vaccine and starting feeling ill three days later. I never recovered but continued to get worse. I developed multisystem inflammation and multisystem failure that medical professionals could not stop. My muscles disappeared as if to disintegrate. I was in ICU for several weeks and stabbed with needles up to 24 times a day for those several weeks, while also receiving 6 or 7 IVs at the same time (continuously). It was constant torture that I cannot describe. I was no longer treated as a human with feelings and a life. I was nothing more than a covid vaccine human guinea pig and the doctors excited to participate in my fascinating progression unto death. If you want to know more, please ask my wife. I wished I would have never gotten vaccinated. If you are not vaccinated, don’t do it unless you are ready to suffer and die.”

https://www.habingfamily.com/obituar...l-mike-granata

I’m lucky to be self employed but can imagine how difficult it would be to risk my livelihood saying no.

When I was in the Army, I’d get the medics to sign off without injecting me from time to time. Might be an option for those facing this situation? Good luck.
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Do you have a link to support this? My wife claims that same thing, and I have challenged her to prove it. She has tried and failed.

The fact is, the initial intention of these vaccines was the same as every other vaccine, to render a greater than 50% of the inoculated immune to the disease. They failed.
Agree. It was supposed to stop it all and failed. You may have noticed there are four lines on all the vaccination cards. They knew from the start it wasn't going to do much.
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Do you have a link to support this? My wife claims that same thing, and I have challenged her to prove it. She has tried and failed.

The fact is, the initial intention of these vaccines was the same as every other vaccine, to render a greater than 50% of the inoculated immune to the disease. They failed.
Notice that they don't cover "breakthrough" cases anymore? Th ose been vac and still get sick.
The length of the coverage the vac would provide was in question right from the start. Think of it this way, why do they give flu shots every year even if same strains being protected against? They protection wanes after a few months and so will/does the kung flu vac.

For the govt to call not being vac'd a workplace Hazzard is bullshit. I'm fine wigh people want or don't want to get ths shots myself, same as i am with flu shots or what car they drive to what dog food they buy.
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Latest numbers in the county are up to 1/3 of the cases being previously vaxxed.
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Doctors are talking about it. Just have to understand thick foreign accents to hear them. I can't sit through a complete video of that but from what I've been able to determine they've figured out spike proteins from the vaccine enter the nucleus of the recipients cells and damage the DNA repair function. This could cause all kinds of problems as detailed @3:14 of the video.

This one has pictures so it's a bit easier to understand -



I feel sorry for anyone who volunteered for this But please resist blaming those of us who were smart enough not to. It can't do you any favors.
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Notice that they don't cover "breakthrough" cases anymore? …
They're bracing for the fifth variation now. How many stop gap boosters have there been? Only three to my knowledge. I suppose at some point they'll have to throw in the towel. Do they expect people to come in for a new shot every quarter for the rest of their lives? That's crazy, like a dog chasing its tail.

The virus mutates faster than they can react. Hell, it mutated before the first vaccine was even released. It basically mutates from person to person. The odds of someone figuring out in advance what the next mutation is going to be are zero. I'm not getting on that ride.
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Population limiter.

Bring down the life expectancy age.

This is what these people talk about at Bilderberg.

Worldwide type leftists conspired with the Chinese for this to happen.



Ask yourself this question. 5 million deaths and why is gain of function still legal?
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It's because stupid idiots that have been drugged are going around like this shit never happened all the while these drugs DO NOT WORK very well. That is why, people are dipshits.
I just got drugged because it was that or lose my job and I'm too close to retire to look for or move to another job. I just hope I don't retire early because of the drug. I know I will not change my hygiene habits I've formed over the past year and a half and that has kept me from contracting the CHINA virus even when my youngest had it IN MY HOUSE!
**** you Biden and **** all you drugger.
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The Covid shots do not make a person immune from Covid. It only lessens the severity of the effects that it has on you.

Even if you get the shots you can still get and spread Covid.
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Notice that they don't cover "breakthrough" cases anymore? Th ose been vac and still get sick.
The length of the coverage the vac would provide was in question right from the start. Think of it this way, why do they give flu shots every year even if same strains being protected against? They protection wanes after a few months and so will/does the kung flu vac.

For the govt to call not being vac'd a workplace Hazzard is bullshit. I'm fine wigh people want or don't want to get ths shots myself, same as i am with flu shots or what car they drive to what dog food they buy.
IMO, the preceding are just more ways of saying "the shot doesn't work".
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My questions:

1) If the concern is variant development because there is not yet "herd immunity" BUT the boosters given are the exact same as the first shot? How does this address variants?

2) If the vaccine works for all the variants? then what is the concern about variants developing?

3) If the common cold is a SARS virus and the vaccine has shown to be effective on SARS variants, would they not be expected to eradicate the common cold along with Covid?

4) If the vaccine is not intended or capable of "eradication" why does it matter if we reach herd immunity or not?
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My questions:

1) If the concern is variant development because there is not yet "herd immunity" BUT the boosters given are the exact same as the first shot? How does this address variants?

2) If the vaccine works for all the variants? then what is the concern about variants developing?

3) If the common cold is a SARS virus and the vaccine has shown to be effective on SARS variants, would they not be expected to eradicate the common cold along with Covid?

4) If the vaccine is not intended or capable of "eradication" why does it matter if we reach herd immunity or not?
Good questions.
The vac effectiveness wans withing 4 to 6 moths thus the worry about variants th atmay be more easily transmitted and or deadly. They will never eradicate this nor the flu mainly due to vac not lastling long.
I don't think herd immunity will or can happen with this, unless a constant booster is given for the foreseeable future.
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