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If people learned a lesson and had to think twice about fecking up their lives maybe it would rub off on others to not make that same mistake. But the government giving everything to the idiots only creates more idiots. Driving up to go snowmobiling Friday night I had a conversation with my cousin. He was just in the hospital for a few days for a skin rash. He's been on unemployment for almost two years and I had told him before to even get a job at Home Depot so he would at least have benefits. His response was it wasn't worth it because the government pays him more to sit at home. I responded with "you are the problem with this country". |
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Did she have access to other plans? As a healty 30 YO she could have gotten her OWN plan with whatever SHE wanted. But SHE decied to use the School plan. The plans cost between 112.00 and 145.00 per month ( I KNOW this because I have quotes on my desk for my daughter. ALL have contraceptive coverage) |
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I don't listen to talking heads on either side. I try to find the facts and put them together myself. |
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The employees of the institution - the faculty, administrators, coaches, secretaries, janitors... aren't all necessarily Catholic. Therefore in their personal belief system, birth control and having insurance coverage for that may not be a sin. The school's insurance system respects those beliefs and makes that coverage available to be able to secure the best people for the position. This is not new or unusual -- Ara Parsegian the famous Notre Dame coach was Presbyterian and had wholly divergent beliefs than the Catholic administration of ND. But he won a helluva lot of football games for them. However, the students of the school are expected to follow the guidelines of the Catholic faith and that's why they choose a Jesuit school. That's the whole point of a faith based university. And it would be wholly inappropriate for the school to enable students to commit what the faith regards as a sin. Why people cannot simply respect the beliefs of the school and move on is beyond me. If you want to be a Catholic there are some pretty simple basic rules. Just because you personally don't agree with them doesn't mean the Church is going to change for you. It means you may not have the moral fortitude to be a Catholic. The height of hypocrisy is to claim to be a Catholic, attend a Catholic school and go before Congress and testify that you want the Church to provide the means for you to continually sin. |
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What does non condom birth control cost TxAg? |
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Social "assistance" is fine for people who just need some temporary help so they can become productive members of society again, but that's not what is happening in this country. We have multiple generations of families who's sole means of income is "free money" from government programs. The more kids they have the more money they get. It has snowballed out of control. What I want is for the government to intrude on my life (and income) as little as possible, and for the majority of the people in this country to be responsible/productive members of society. Income redistribution and over-regulation does nothing to achieve that, it only makes things worse. |
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Again, I'm not defending this chick at all. But some of the arguments here are weak at best.
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I'm surprised this is still on OT.
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Now you are just picking a fight. I said I agree with him and yet you only attack him. Seems like you have a vendetta yes? |
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I probably fall on Rush's side of the issue, but he was incredibly stupid to frame it the way he did.
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Not so fast. I don't agree with snippets. THIS was the comment:
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So when little Betsy gets pregnant because her hypocrite loser boyfriend didn't use protection, what to do? The loser boyfriend ain't paying 'cause he doesn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. And of course...abortion is just wrong...just ask all the people that go to Betsy's church and have her convinced that this isn't even a consideration (along with her parents). So Betsy has the baby. Suddenly, all the good church people that told her how sinful it was to terminate the pregnancy are nowhere to be found (that's a nice way of saying "the kid is YOUR problem"). But it's not that simple. See, Betsy can't afford to raise her kid because she's piss poor too...something that apparently didn't occur to her when her boyfriend was driving her home like a used Buick. So now she has to go get public assistance...only there's no friggin' money for public assistance. Why? Because the Republican party is always trying to curb public assistance. "Ohhh...that's the job of the PRIVATE SECTOR." That's pretty much shitting all over the kid by proxy. I'm not saying all cases are like this, but there damn sure are enough of them to make me know better than to follow in lock step with the Republican platform and Phil's comments aren't completely unfounded. Rush has never been on my side for a microsecond. The only person on my side is me. |
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A) Article 1, Section 8, Paragraph 3, The Commerce Clause. Congress has the authority, as part of its power to regulate interstate commerce, to set conditions on those who want to engage in such commerce, including the condition that such insurance be provided. So this would apply to Georgetown, because they engage in, benefit from, and affect such "commerce" by employing people from around the country, enrolling students from around the country, buying equipment and supplies from around the country, etc. In addition, insurance companies are interstate operations, and are subject to Congress’ regulation. B) Article 1, Section 8, Paragraph 1, The Spending Clause. Congress can impose conditions on receipt of Federal funds. For example, grants for education, GI Bill, etc. So here we have a school taking federal funds for students covered by such programs. They then have to comply with regulations required for these programs. This also brings in the “Necessary and Proper Clause" of Paragraph 18. Quote:
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Same as it ever was. The far right is dividing America by religion and gender, and the far left by race and class.
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