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Old 10-17-2012, 03:45pm   #1
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Default So explain to me why conservatives are shitting themselves over Benghazi

Because frankly, the whole discussion looks dumb.

Are you guys really so concerned about weather or not the president used the word terror in describing the attack? Seriously, who gives a fuk what anyone calls it, our guys were killed. I'm guessing every time our guys get killed in Afghanistan you could argue its a terrorist attack. For the record he referred to it as a terrorist attack twice in the first two days after the attack.

Are you implying that somehow Obama did not do his job here? That with the thousands of diplomats overseas, that he personally coordinates their every move and assigns security personnel? Of course he doesn't, so that thought is out the window.

Besides, from what I'm reading, it was congress - republicans specifically - that voted to cut half a billion from the State Department's security budget. I would think they would want to shut up about that.

So what is it? That there is some kind of "cover up"? That because he did not use the word "terror" enough in the first two weeks after that attack that there is some kind of conspiracy here? We all knew they died within minutes of the attack. What the hell do you think Obama is supposedly covering up?

It is because the UN Ambassador thought it was linked to the protest over the anti Islam video that were going on around the rest of the Arab world on the same day? As far as I can tell, Obama never said that, she did. And she was going off the information our intelligence community gave her. So are you blaming Obama because the CIA gave inaccurate information out?

I don't understand where you think your side is going to get any points out of this. The only people responsible for killing our guys are the assholes that pulled the triggers. To now sit across the isle and try to make hay about this - when it was your side that pulled funding for security - looks like a shaky proposition at best.
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:53pm   #2
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STATE dept is about the most stupidly run agency in the US .gov certainly in the top ten, anyway.....the amount of DIP LO Mats should be cut by well over 50% and overseas offices cut by an easy 50% also, if not MORE in each case....the 'staff' in Foggy Bottom should be cleaned out, pink slips overnight,

IF you knew even 10% of what I know about that agency, you would agree with me.....

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Old 10-17-2012, 04:00pm   #3
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Exactly. Obama's administration did not do their job and his foreign policy makes us look like a bunch of pussies, which is pretty accurate for his supporters
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:03pm   #4
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Really? You don't see that the reason he would cover up the fact it was a terrorist attack is because much of his campaign is based on the fact that Bin Laden is dead as is his organization? I can't believe you need the importance of this explained to you. Dishonsety is a charactor flaw we can do without.
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They blamed a video...for over a week.

And now deny the whole thing.

As for the Republicans cutting funding, the State Department has already said that had nothing to do with the lack of security.

The fact that you don't see an issue isn't a surprise.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:27pm   #6
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Let's assume (incorrectly) for a second that he did actually call it a terrorist attack immediately.

If that was the case and there was a terrorist attack against Americans, do you think that the best thing to do would be hop on his jet and head off to fundraisers??

The 1 positive point of his entire campaign is that Al Quaeda is "on it's heels". You wonder why he might want to do everything he could to minimize the fact that there was a terrorist attack that left Americans dead?

How is it that when something good happens, like Bin Laden being killed, he acts like he pulled the trigger himself but when it is something bad, he does everything he can to blame everybody else? It is pathetic.


If you actually think it is no big deal like your post suggests... well...

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It wasn't a terrorist attack. We are at war. Just because our people weren't in the war zone, that doesn't mean they aren't casualties of war. Same with the Ft. Hood shooting. That wasn't terrorism either. It was war, a case of a soldier changing sides. As long as we are at war, then any govt. representatives are fair game for those we are warring against.
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Same with the Ft. Hood shooting....
Mother f*cker yells allahu akbar as he shoots up an Army base and these ass clowns call it "workplace violence"
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Because two of your heroes who considered themselves demigods lied blatantly and knowingly to the American people for two weeks. That simple enough?
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Because two of your heroes who considered themselves demigods lied blatantly and knowingly to the American people for two weeks. That simple enough?
That's just it Val, I looked high and low and can't find a single specific instance where he said the violence was only related to a video. So where did he lie???

I did however, find MULTIPLE sites that said our intelligence community thought that's what happened.
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That's just it Val, I looked high and low and can't find a single specific instance where he said the violence was only related to a video.
Didn't even go to HuffPo. A video does not "help spark" a coordinated well armed assault on a compound weakened by a lack of security. Obama UN Speech Challenges World Leaders To Confront Intolerance At Home

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Denouncing the video that helped spark the protests as "crude and disgusting," Obama quickly turned to a defense of the American ideal of free speech that permitted such "offensive" publications to exist and issued a stern challenge to the assembled world leaders who had stood by while violent protests raged over the film.
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Christ, you can't be this stupid, Phil. We know it was a terrorist attack. Like Clinton, we care more about our POTUS blatantly lying to us and expecting us to believe it. it's that simple.
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Fk it. It's not worth the effort.
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The intent of what Romney was trying to get across last night was to show that this president has no concern for anyone but himself. He stated that the day after the attack that killed 4 Americans the president was on his plane headed for a fund raiser.
His speech in the Rose Garden did not say that the 4 were killed in a planned terrorist attack. Here is a paragraph from that statement:
"Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts."
That is pretty clear that he was looking at this attack as a part of the demonstrations going on through the Arab world over the YouTube video.
His mention of terror in the tenth paragraph and then he did not say that the attack was a planned terrorist attack.
Candy Crowley overstepped her role in defending Obama. He was wrong and he knows it. I am sure next Monday's debate this will come up again and lets see how he tries to explain it.
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Fk it. It's not worth the effort.
But it was worth THIS effort?
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When facts are entered into an argument, liberals put their fingers in their ears and start yelling lalalalalalalala.
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Mother f*cker yells allahu akbar as he shoots up an Army base and these ass clowns call it "workplace violence"
That certainly took some chutzpah to do that.
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One thing is bugging me about this particular part of the debate. Crowley had a copy of the transcript of that rose garden speech in front of her. I can accept that she anticipated that issue coming up and was prepared for it. What I don't understand is how obama knew she had a copy of the transcript.
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One thing is bugging me about this particular part of the debate. Crowley had a copy of the transcript of that rose garden speech in front of her. I can accept that she anticipated that issue coming up and was prepared for it. What I don't understand is how obama knew she had a copy of the transcript.
So you're saying there may have been some Malarkey going on?
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Christ, you can't be this stupid, Phil. We know it was a terrorist attack. Like Clinton, we care more about our POTUS blatantly lying to us and expecting us to believe it. it's that simple.

Actually, he can, and he is.

Americans are dead, and this President lied to the American public and does nothing about it.

F uck every last useless liberal.
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