Glad it wasn't the Porch

[Vandelay Industries]

Originally Posted by Yadkin

This was in Johnson City, TN, where they have modern shopping centers and parking lots designed for modern, huge, pickup trucks and SUVs. It's not Massachushits where they drive Priuses and Rav4s, and the parking spaces are all 7 feet wide.

Oooh, OK.

Sorry it's too challenging for you to fit your cute little truck in the big manly parking space.

[DJ_Critterus]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

There is no way in hell that an empty shopping cart rolling through a parking lot did that.

And if it did,

A shopping cart hit my Bolt parked in handicap a few weeks ago. Did't even scratch the paint. I call bullshit on the wind pushing the cart that hard. Perp threw out the line and caught a YaddFish

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by Vandelay Industries

Oooh, OK.

Sorry it's too challenging for you to fit your cute little truck in the big manly parking space.

Cute little truck centered in an 10-foot space is...

Do you need help with the maff?

[Yadkin]

Lemme help you out, Mr. Massachushits.

Given:
Ws (space) = 10'
Wt (truck) = 6'
Wc (cart) = 2'

(Ws-Wt)/2 = space left between the truck and the line

Now, compare that result with Wc.

[Vandelay Industries]

I wasn't referring to the width, dumbass. The ass end of your truck is pretty clearly in the space behind it.

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by Vandelay Industries

I wasn't referring to the width, dumbass. The ass end of your truck is pretty clearly in the space behind it.

The cute little truck is long. I park that way so I don't have the front sticking into the aisle.

[GTOguy]

Just looked. Beginning in 2019, Ford went with steel cargo beds. Not the aluminum crap. I'm not a math guy, but I'm pretty fair at backyard physics, and IMO, the cart lacks the mass to do that amount of damage....particularly since it even buckled the body line, which is the stiffest part of the panel. If an empty cart hit hard enough to do that, it would have to be going so fast (60-100 mph) that it would be crumpled. To me, it looks like a car hit it, or as I said earlier, a fully loaded cart weighing over 100 pounds was shoved into it. Piss-poor parking job or not.

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by GTOguy

Just looked. Beginning in 2019, Ford went with steel cargo beds. Not the aluminum crap. I'm not a math guy, but I'm pretty fair at backyard physics, and IMO, the cart lacks the mass to do that amount of damage....particularly since it even buckled the body line, which is the stiffest part of the panel. If an empty cart hit hard enough to do that, it would have to be going so fast (60-100 mph) that it would be crumpled. To me, it looks like a car hit it, or as I said earlier, a fully loaded cart weighing over 100 pounds was shoved into it. Piss-poor parking job or not.

Yes, the body is steel- I just verified with a magnet.

Again, that was my thought at first, that the cart by itself could not have done that much damage. But I have to go with the facts in evidence, in this case the eyewitness that volunteered the information to me.

Himey's and Masshole's theories are based on the type of human behavior that exists in their worlds. Here in flyover country, folks are generally honest and law-abiding.

When I lived in eastern Massachusetts it was common for someone to vandalize property that they did not own if it was new or nice. Especially if it was expensive, or well kept, and they could never see themselves owning it. Massholes tend to be envious of others and won't hesitate to engage in criminal activity to make themselves feel superior, using some deluded logic.

[GTOguy]

Originally Posted by Yadkin

Yes, the body is steel- I just verified with a magnet.

Again, that was my thought at first, that the cart by itself could not have done that much damage. But I have to go with the facts in evidence, in this case the eyewitness that volunteered the information to me.

Himey's and Masshole's theories are based on the type of human behavior that exists in their worlds. Here in flyover country, folks are generally honest and law-abiding.

When I lived in eastern Massachusetts it was common for someone to vandalize property that they did not own if it was new or nice. Especially if it was expensive, or well kept, and they could never see themselves owning it. Massholes tend to be envious of others and won't hesitate to engage in criminal activity to make themselves feel superior, using some deluded logic.

This is a valid point I had not considered. My experience as well. Conservatives tend to live in more rural areas, and conservatives are respectuful of others, the opposite of liberals. Have a good friend who recently sold a '71 Mercury Cyclone for $$$ that he had to re-paint because it got vandalized in Mill Valley, CA for having a BUSH sticker on the bumper back when Bush was running for office. Not a republican within a mile of that place. Nasty, angry, militant do-nothing liberals. That said, man, what a hit.

[sublime1996525]

Let's see the video footage!

[Aerovette]

[Vandelay Industries]

Originally Posted by Yadkin

The cute little truck is long. I park that way so I don't have the front sticking into the aisle.

The spaces are huge! My truck was perfectly centered! Oh, shit the photo!

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by Masshole

Blah, blah blah, blah, blah...

[dvarapala]

Originally Posted by RedLS1GTO

There is no way in hell that an empty shopping cart rolling through a parking lot did that.

Not unless someone gave it some pretty serious velocity.

[GTOguy]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

Not unless someone gave it some pretty serious velocity.

.....while riding it like a scooter to utilize body weight.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by dvarapala

Not unless someone gave it some pretty serious velocity.

The cart that was barreling towards my car several years ago had to be going 20-25mph. Winds were whipping. Guaranteed it would have severely damaged my passenger front quarter panel, maybe the bumper, too. I parked, as usual, in the south 40, when I went in, there were no carts anywhere around, the wayward one must have traveled a long distance, and since there was a big, empty parking lot between me and everyone else, there were no other cars that might have blocked it before it almost hit my car.

It was shocking how fast that cart was moving.

[higgyburners]

Originally Posted by Yadkin

Rent free, Himey.

Are you going to pull a Doug now? your in the red now what are you going to do with that Pickup...i say fix it and get rid of it to minimize how far your are in the hole........GTO stand back it's not that kind of hole

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by higgyburners

Are you going to pull a Doug now? your in the red now what are you going to do with that Pickup...i say fix it and get rid of it to minimize how far your are in the hole........GTO stand back it's not that kind of hole

Rent free, and back to the gaye, Himey.

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Yadkin

This was in Johnson City, TN, where they have modern shopping centers and parking lots designed for modern, huge, pickup trucks and SUVs. It's not Massachushits where they drive Priuses and Rav4s, and the parking spaces are all 7 feet wide.

This is interesting. Do you have evidence that the parking spaces are a different size in Johnson City TN than in Mass?

Because from my experience, a developer needs to maximize the parking spaces because the building size is dictated by the parking.

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by LATB

This is interesting. Do you have evidence that the parking spaces are a different size in Johnson City TN than in Mass?

Because from my experience, a developer needs to maximize the parking spaces because the building size is dictated by the parking.

I've designed parking lots in Boston, commuter lots in Connecticut, shopping centers in Syracuse NY, and various cities in North Carolina. Each has their own standards, and you can look them up if you don't believe me. As a general rule, the older and denser a city is, the smaller the parking spaces.