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Old 04-06-2020, 6:31am   #21
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Some tin foil hats up in this bitch.
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There was a massive effort to refactor all kinds of ancient software in the months preceding Y2K - an effort that was successful for the most part. Thanks to that heroic effort the world didn't come to a screeching halt - which is why some people think there was never an issue.
Wow, a bunch of computer guys had to work a little overtime to correct the lack of foresight of their predecessors. Yawn.
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Wow, a bunch of computer guys had to work a little overtime to correct the lack of foresight of their predecessors. Yawn.
and after all that, it was determined that if nothing was done... the power grid would not have gone down; the internet would not have faileld. Instead, a few computer screens would of frozen... but not the biblical "fire & brimstone" that was predicted.

that false prediction and the panic it created... along with this COVID-19 hype... has a name:

it is called "the CNN effect".
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Wow, a bunch of computer guys had to work a little overtime to correct the lack of foresight of their predecessors. Yawn.
d-rap is a hero!!! He said so!!
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I remember it. I bought ZZ Top tickets last minute from a scalper at way below face, and sat in nice, lower prom seats. The concert was well attended, but apparently enough people were scared off that tickets were plentiful for a something that otherwise would have been hard to get and super expensive.

Think about that.....ZZ Top? In Houston? On New Year's Eve? No way should tickets have been available, especially for cheap. We had a great time. Thanks, easily frightened people!
Sounds like a banger!
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There was a massive effort to refactor all kinds of ancient software in the months preceding Y2K - an effort that was successful for the most part. Thanks to that heroic effort the world didn't come to a screeching halt - which is why some people think there was never an issue.
LOL Ok, I'm a software developer and well remember this time period. For every minute I spent "refactoring software", I spent 60 minutes calming panicking customers. This mainly went like this:

Any software you are using that uses a date storage system that would break due to the change from 1999 to 2000, you'd know it was garbage already because of the other 10,000 ways it did stuff in a horrible fashion. Almost all commercial software, and yes this is somewhat short-sighted, is using the UNIX time_t structure for time storage, even if they don't know it. It is the number of seconds since January 1st 1970 in Greenwich England. On 16-bit and 32-bit platforms that becomes a problem in 2037 if the storage is a signed long integer (32-bits it will go negative then.) If it is defined as an unsigned integer, which it probably isn't, then you have until about 2104. However, this is all a moot point because all we have to do, at some point in the next 37 years or so, is fix the C-language libraries, or whatever libraries are being used.

BTW, for Linux and Microsoft C-language libraries, this was corrected very quickly, sometime around 2001-ish. We weren't even in a big hurry to do it.

Yes, some creaky software used two bytes to store just the last two digits of the year in some of their date formats. That software almost assuredly didn't using date/times stored like that in calculations. It was just used to store stuff like "Date of birth" or something. It wasn't used for aircraft navigation, financial transactions, or whatever critical type stuff you can think of because believe it or not, programmers aren't idiots and are always thinking about stuff like "Will this continue to work for the foreseeable lifetime of this software?"

The programs that were at issue were almost all either simply corrected or so old and outdated that there were plenty of other choices to replace it.
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SO NYC lost maybe 5000 folks, damn tragedy....but out of some 3 MILLION living there???

*8,000,000+
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as of Sunday night:

Covid-19

confirmed cases worldwide vs. confirmed deaths worldwide: 5.1%

confirmed US cases vs. confirmed US deaths: 2.8%
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Covid-19

confirmed cases worldwide - confirmed deaths worldwide: 5.1%

confirmed US cases - confirmed US deaths: 2.8%
Q: And how do those numbers compare to the flu?

A: They don't, even though the media keeps saying they do. With the flu it's calculated using an estimated number of cases, which is a huge number, but it's calculated for this virus using only the confirmed number of cases. Why the difference?
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Q: And how do those numbers compare to the flu?

A: They don't,
and that's why the media doesn't compare COVID-19 to other flu virus from the past 50 years (SARS, H1N1, ...); it would expose their hype.
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Medically this is not the same as the flu because the body is reacting differently to it than the run of the mill flu.

Normally your immune system doesn't over react like it does with COVID-19. Yes it is just another strain but this strain is different.
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BTW some of you guys need to step away from the Youtube vids for a while.
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Medically this is not the same as the flu because the body is reacting differently to it than the run of the mill flu.

Normally your immune system doesn't over react like it does with COVID-19. Yes it is just another strain but this strain is different.
Correct, but that doesn't explain why the mortality rate should be calculated differently.
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Correct, but that doesn't explain why the mortality rate should be calculated differently.
More people are susceptible to this. Wife just had her first death.

47 year old black male. Healthy.
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More people are susceptible to this. Wife just had her first death.

47 year old black male. Healthy.
That doesn't answer my question about why the mortality rate from this virus should be calculated different from other viruses.
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That doesn't answer my question about why the mortality rate from this virus should be calculated different from other viruses.
If more people are susceptible and no one, I mean no one can predict how an individual's immune system is going to react then there is a huge unknown.

Fear of the unknown but there is a case and proof now to be fearful.


You might get it and be fine. I might get it and be dead.

The flu is fairly predictable. 99% are cases of old and compromised that die from it.

This has not been the same.
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If more people are susceptible and no one, I mean no one can predict how an individual's immune system is going to react then there is a huge unknown.

Fear of the unknown but there is a case and proof now to be fearful.


You might get it and be fine. I might get it and be dead.

The flu is fairly predictable. 99% are cases of old and compromised that die from it.

This has not been the same.
Yeah, I get that, however:

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That doesn't answer my question about why the mortality rate from this virus should be calculated different from other viruses.
Why for this specific virus is the mortality rate being calculated using only confirmed cases when an estimated number of cases is used for the same calculation for all others? That has nothing to do with how it affects people.
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Medically this is not the same as the flu
all flu viruses have their own symptomatic "personality".
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