My new shed...

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Yadkin

I would have told you to set the building on the rock. No block at all. Treated lumber, joists-on-ground. Fill the "box" with crushed stone.

"engineer"

"paper envy"

[Bill]

Does this have a moisture barrier underneath? What about insulation under the flooring deck?

[Vandelay Industries]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Does this have a moisture barrier underneath? What about insulation under the flooring deck?

No moisture barrier is needed. The block gaps are tighter than Yaddy's foundation.

[Don Rickles]

Cool thread

[StaticCling]

Originally Posted by Tikiman

Spoiler alert. When you've finally completed it, your wife will take over 3/4 of it.

ABSOLUTE TRUTH.

[snide]

Originally Posted by 86RAG

**** you Sasquatch

[LATB]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Does this have a moisture barrier underneath? What about insulation under the flooring deck?

A moisture barrier would be ok but not necessary on a raised open structure that will self ventilate.
If you did so it would be best to have it on the ground not attached to the underside of the structure.

Insulation is not a good idea for a building that is not conditioned (HVAC). It can create a dew point and mold that usually follows. [conversely an HVAC building that is not insulated can do the same]

An exception would be closed cell spray foam. Done properly it seals the structure and leaves little to no room for trapped air between the wood and environment that can create the mold. (It also is a moisture barrier but that is getting deep into the weeds in this conversation)

Disclaimer:
I’m not an engineer or building scientist. But I have learned from engineers and building biologists and other specialists more than I want to know about this stuff.
And I have spent a lifetime in this line of work. Including major mold remediation and repairs. If you spend any substantial amount of time taking structures apart it’s very obvious what was done wrong and what was done right.

[86RAG]

Originally Posted by Yadkin

Sure, if I was building a railroad. It's raised for several reasons. I want to match the grade of the driveway, I want ventilation underneath, and don't want water washing down the hill into direct contact with it.

[86RAG]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Does this have a moisture barrier underneath? What about insulation under the flooring deck?

No, just approx. 10" of clearance. Should be enough.

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by 86RAG

Sure, if I was building a railroad. It's raised for several reasons. I want to match the grade of the driveway, I want ventilation underneath, and don't want water washing down the hill into direct contact with it.

Not to mention railroad ties get replaced every 7-10 years and are soaked in creosote, not pressure treating.

*engineer

[LATB]

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

Not to mention railroad ties get replaced every 7-10 years and are soaked in creosote, not pressure treating.

*engineer

As I recall, in another thread (maybe here maybe other place) the "engineer" was making a point that europe uses concrete rail track foundations and questioned why we in America are still using wood.

Irony Deluxe

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by LATB

"engineer"

"paper envy"

Thanks for verifying that you are envious of my professional license.

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by 86RAG

Sure, if I was building a railroad. It's raised for several reasons. I want to match the grade of the driveway, I want ventilation underneath, and don't want water washing down the hill into direct contact with it.

I haven't seen the site. So you're building a bridge from your driveway to the shed floor?

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

Not to mention railroad ties get replaced every 7-10 years and are soaked in creosote, not pressure treating.

*engineer

Treated wood in well drained crushed stone will outlast you.

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by LATB

As I recall, in another thread (maybe here maybe other place) the "engineer" was making a point that europe uses concrete rail track foundations and questioned why we in America are still using wood.

Irony Deluxe

You think the load on a shed is comparable to a railroad.

[86RAG]

Originally Posted by Yadkin

I haven't seen the site.

You didn't ask before telling me how I should do it.

[/QUOTE]
So you're building a bridge from your driveway to the shed floor?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, kinda

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by 86RAG

You didn't ask before telling me how I should do it.

So you're building a bridge from your driveway to the shed floor?

Yeah, kinda

I didn't tell you how I would have done it until you facetiously claimed that you had ax'd me.

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by Yadkin

Treated wood in well drained crushed stone will outlast you.

Then why use railroad ties example that get replaced every 7-10 years?

Engineer.

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by TheRealBadger

Then why use railroad ties example that get replaced every 7-10 years?

Engineer.

That picture shows ties that are far older than 10 years; probably 40 or 50.

The reason why wood ties don't last is because high dynamic loads on busy lines. On little used branch lies, or storage yards ties last a very long time.

I am greatly amused by your envy, and ignorance of all things technical.

[86RAG]

Originally Posted by Yadkin

I didn't tell you how I would have done it until you facetiously claimed that you had ax'd me.

That was just a joke, I figured you'd get it!