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Old 03-22-2023, 12:46pm   #181
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/man...ump-indictment

Supposedly going after him for campaign funds misuse, the same thing Obama did in 2008 and had to pay the FEC the largest fine in history and strangely, no indictments, no 5 year investigation, no DA's trying to boost their careers off political assassination, etc..

And isn't it passingly strange this drops within 24 hours of the public finding out the Biden's got a $1 million dollar payday from China. Its all so disgusting.
Yes, since 2015 the DNC and all their parrot followers have been predicting jail time.

8 years, and the GOP stays away. The GOP became Mitt Romney, a punching bag that only takes punches, spit, language, and kicks but NEVER hits back.
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I think the thing that pisses me off AND simultaneously makes me laugh, is that they think we are dumb enough to believe their bullshit. It is insulting, because I would never believe it, and it's entertaining because they believe each other's bullshit and lap it up. Complete lack of independent thinking and total school kid/cool kid groupthink.
Those pubs who hate Trump, and have made it the ONLY PRIORITY in their political thinking and voting assessment, do more harm that good to the party.
They should admit they are rinos at best, and liberals at heart, and stop trying to convince others they support our party.

As I have stated many, many times, I voted for Dole and mittens, I did not agree with many stances they had, but I put party before my preferences.

For the haters, it is okay to hate Trump for all things PERSONAL you were sold by cnn and pmsnbc, but not okay to side with socialist idiots who are afraid to face him in 2024, when you do this you are one of them!!
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Yes, since 2015 the DNC and all their parrot followers have been predicting jail time.

8 years, and the GOP stays away. The GOP became Mitt Romney, a punching bag that only takes punches, spit, language, and kicks but NEVER hits back.
The GOP is weak, and getting weaker.
I have never given them a dollar, I will give to the candidate of my choosing, which is what the GOP does.

GOP sucks and are lazy, as evidenced by them promoted both oz and mastriano, mastriano was a state senator who finished 4th three years earlier in the pub primary, not general election, for congress.
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Here's a concept that many of the Trumpists seem to not be able to understand about many of the 'Never Trumpers' or those that simply wish he would go away.

I, as a conservative, want a Republican to win in 2024 (actually, I'd prefer a libertarian, but that's a different conversation). Many of us believe that Trump doesn't have a chance of winning but others, like DeSantis, do. It's that simple.

And before someone replies saying something like 'if all Republicans supported Trump, he would win', all Republicans aren't enough to win. The Republican nominee has to get some independents in order to win. Other Republicans have a better chance of getting independents than Trump does.

And before someone replies that it doesn't matter who runs due to voter fraud. If there is some truth to that, wouldn't it be better to make cheating as hard as possible? Cheating against Trump, who will get fewer independent votes than DeSantis, is easier since fewer fake votes would be needed.

Making statements that 'Never Trumpers' or those that prefer other candidates are liberal or RINOs just makes the person making the statement look dumb.
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Here's a concept that many of the Trumpists seem to not be able to understand about many of the 'Never Trumpers' or those that simply wish he would go away.

I, as a conservative, want a Republican to win in 2024 (actually, I'd prefer a libertarian, but that's a different conversation). Many of us believe that Trump doesn't have a chance of winning but others, like DeSantis, do. It's that simple.

And before someone replies saying something like 'if all Republicans supported Trump, he would win', all Republicans aren't enough to win. The Republican nominee has to get some independents in order to win. Other Republicans have a better chance of getting independents than Trump does.

And before someone replies that it doesn't matter who runs due to voter fraud. If there is some truth to that, wouldn't it be better to make cheating as hard as possible? Cheating against Trump, who will get fewer independent votes than DeSantis, is easier since fewer fake votes would be needed.

Making statements that 'Never Trumpers' or those that prefer other candidates are liberal or RINOs just makes the person making the statement look dumb.
Bill Daniels (not a Republican) agrees...and will most likely vote for Trump. I doubt he is alone.

Trump is closer to an Independent and a Libertarian way of thinking than he is a Liberal and given the choice, only a complete moron would vote for four more years of this bullshit.

I don't think Trump wants MORE government but it will take MORE government to undo what this government has done. He's going to have to intervene as big government, in order to hand the government BACK to the people.
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Here's a concept that many of the Trumpists seem to not be able to understand about many of the 'Never Trumpers' or those that simply wish he would go away.

I, as a conservative, want a Republican to win in 2024 (actually, I'd prefer a libertarian, but that's a different conversation). Many of us believe that Trump doesn't have a chance of winning but others, like DeSantis, do. It's that simple.

And before someone replies saying something like 'if all Republicans supported Trump, he would win', all Republicans aren't enough to win. The Republican nominee has to get some independents in order to win. Other Republicans have a better chance of getting independents than Trump does.

And before someone replies that it doesn't matter who runs due to voter fraud. If there is some truth to that, wouldn't it be better to make cheating as hard as possible? Cheating against Trump, who will get fewer independent votes than DeSantis, is easier since fewer fake votes would be needed.

Making statements that 'Never Trumpers' or those that prefer other candidates are liberal or RINOs just makes the person making the statement look dumb.
What is dumber is talking about DeSantis running, I am in FL, and have voted for Desantis twice, I like him, if he ran and won the primaries he would get my vote, as of today he has not announced his candidacy.

When, AND IF, DeSantis runs, the discussion will change, as of today he is a non-factor.

I doubt he will run in 2024, maybe 2028, as he is not going to enter a race that the polls tell him he will lose; maybe the polls will change.

And I will stick with my stance that Never Trumpers hurt the party, it is again me over party, no one can convince me that is a good thing.
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Bill Daniels (not a Republican) agrees...and will most likely vote for Trump. I doubt he is alone.

Trump is closer to an Independent and a Libertarian way of thinking than he is a Liberal and given the choice, only a complete moron would vote for four more years of this bullshit.

I don't think Trump wants MORE government but it will take MORE government to undo what this government has done. He's going to have to intervene as big government, in order to hand the government BACK to the people.
It will take a very strong personality from the REP side to win AND to undo the many problems the current administration has created.

Based on those already committed to running, I only see one dood who has the background, experience and ballz to get that done.
The rest are weak, and will never be able to navigate the swamp.
Trump is the worst nightmare for socialists, why else are they trying so hard to ban him??
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We need to, as a country, stop being nice to our politicians. They work for us, and they have forgotten that a long time ago..
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What is dumber is talking about DeSantis running, I am in FL, and have voted for Desantis twice, I like him, if he ran and won the primaries he would get my vote, as of today he has not announced his candidacy.

When, AND IF, DeSantis runs, the discussion will change, as of today he is a non-factor.

I doubt he will run in 2024, maybe 2028, as he is not going to enter a race that the polls tell him he will lose; maybe the polls will change.

And I will stick with my stance that Never Trumpers hurt the party, it is again me over party, no one can convince me that is a good thing.
There are tons of indications that DeSantis is going to run. You're free to ignore them if you wish but it doesn't mean they aren't there.
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All y'all are going to vote for Trump when he locks up the nominatioon.
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All y'all are going to vote for DeSantis when he locks up the nominatioon.
Fixed it for you.
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Damn right I am.
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Fixed it for you.
DeSantis needs to remain in Tallahassee where the voters just sent him for another term.
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DeSantis needs to remain in Tallahassee where the voters just sent him for another term.
Any Floridian that voted for DeSantis and didn't know he was likely running for POTUS should up their current events knowledge.
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Any Floridian that voted for DeSantis and didn't know he was likely running for POTUS should up their current events knowledge.
I would suspect every Florida DeSantis voter knows his political aspirations. I bet most or a good many would prefer he stay in Tallahassee and sit this round out. I actually believe he'd do himself a lot of good to stay out of the Trump fray.
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So, in other words, you have no idea what the case is even about,
I agree with this.

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but you believe it must be wrong?
Show me where I said I "believe it must be wrong". Oh yeah, I didn't. I asked specific questions based on reading numerous articles on the topic that I believe do NOT answer said questions. I have NO IDEA if the case is "right", "wrong", or "in question" until I understand EXACTLY, of what law is Trump accused of violating! But all the leftists and Trump haters just keep attacking my view, instead of answering the ****ing question: Exactly what law is Trump accused of violating?
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I agree with this.



Show me where I said I "believe it must be wrong". Oh yeah, I didn't. I asked specific questions based on reading numerous articles on the topic that I believe do NOT answer said questions. I have NO IDEA if the case is "right", "wrong", or "in question" until I understand EXACTLY, of what law is Trump accused of violating! But all the leftists and Trump haters just keep attacking my view, instead of answering the ****ing question: Exactly what law is Trump accused of violating?
And you read all those articles and still don’t know?
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"May the best man win" -- the primaries.

If Trump is on the ballot, I will vote for him.

If DeSantis is on the ballot, I will vote for him.

If Nikki (almost no chance) is on the general election ballot, I will stay home.

If Mike Pence gets to the general election (less than zero chance) I will commit suicide.
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Remember, DeSantis can not run with Trump, if that ever came to fruition, as they are from the same state..
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Remember, DeSantis can not run with Trump, if that ever came to fruition, as they are from the same state..
False.

https://www.history.com/news/can-the...the-same-state
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