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The kid was in hiding. I suspect if any of us decided to play hide and seek with LE it would take an equal amount of resources to find us providing the situation was the same of course. Are you implying LE was less than prepared? Not adequate? I'm a little lost here. |
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The argument from the anti-gun crowd is that the population does not need to be armed. Law enforcement is there to protect you and to take care of the problem. If someone is out to harm you, there are multiple ways to defend yourself. You should have a whistle... urinate on yourself... hide and call 911... etc. Each and every way they advocate has the basic premise of counting on a LEO to come to your rescue. What I am saying is that after seeing the amount of resourses needed to stop just 1 untrained kid... do you (generic "you", not you specifically) really believe that a few local cops are going to be able to protect you if someone is intent on causing you harm? ... or would you rather be prepared to protect yourself and your family on your own terms, should you ever need to? When it comes down to it, the person most capable of protecting you in a situation like that, is YOU. |
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I think I've sorted out where my problem lies with the entire CCW debate. (I don't have any statistics to back this up, it's just my opinion) You can shoot all the targets and cans you want. But if you're standing there and some thug has a pistol pointed at you and your wife, how many of us would have the where with all to get ourselves out of this jam? I'm not against CCW. Not at all. But the concept makes me a bit nervous. Quote:
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I was really annoyed this weekend when i had to go online to see coverage of the explosion in West TX and the gun bill vote. I think for every 3 hours of news coverage 10 minutes at the most was devoted to other national news stories (forget international) on the news networks. .
Oh and good job news networks teaching everyone how to make a pressure cooker bomb. Now in addition to potential gun violence w/ the mentally fuct people out there the national news networks taught them how to make a bomb too.... Sweet. |
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When the reporters start showing their ignorance which is usually after the first day:
Oh, Come On Now, CNN |
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The post by "Thomas" above is quite interesting. I would ask: Why did you let yourself and wife get into that situation? (at gun point). Have you no knowledge of situation awareness? I have practiced and still practice with targets other than the tin cans you refer to. My families lives are too important to me to not go the extra step to protect them.
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And what about Texas, what happened there was equally saddening.
Maybe I feel a bit stronger because of the Fire/EMS personnel that lost their lives...my girlfriend is a volunteer EMT...maybe I'm a bit more sensitive because of that |
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What makes me nervous isn't the lifelong gun enthusiast. We have members here who obviously have many many years handling firearms. Some in LE, some in the Military, and to some it's a lifelong hobby.
It's the new guy. The new guy who less than one year ago had ZERO interest in guns, gun rights, and the CCW debate. The new guy with a six month old CCW permit who's suddenly "Prepared." The "Come on bad guy, let's play!" individuals. This group makes me nervous. But, it's their constitutional right to bear arms and I support it wholeheartedly. 71corv, If your interested in my position, check out Will's post about the gun control bill going down. |
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You are right in 1 sense... shooting at cans is obviously not the same. With that said, that practice, the training that makes drawing and firing second nature will help at least in part. I do also believe that any person carrying a gun should take it upon themselves to get the training required to make themselves useful in a SHTF scenario. Luckily, I was fortunate enough to be trained by some of the World's finest badasses and when those times did come, I knew exactly what to do... and was able to do it well. In return, I gladly pass that training on whenever possible. Even in the case of your average Joe whose training consists of shooting at paper and cans, if someone decides to pull a gun on you and your wife, I would sure as hell rather have the option to fight back instead of being completely helpless at the mercy of some asshole. If I am going down, it will be on my terms. I can think of no worse feeling than being helpless as the ones you love are done harm. |
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If this was perhaps a requirement to obtaining a CCW permit, I'd feel a whole lot better about the entire situation. A WHOLE lot better. |
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It's one of those things that sounds good on paper until you realize what a slippery slope it is. |
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That's why I was very exact in my wording with the "take it upon themselves" part. The fact that something is a good idea doesn't mean it should be mandated and regulated. |
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Have we become so numb to "O" 's dog and pony show that we're willingly accepting full blown military hardware in the hands of police? Why do they have it? What are they planning for that they already have that hardware? |
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I haven't watched any of it because I don't have a TV and at work I watch the weather channel. Maybe if they harp on about it for another month or two some of you guys will shitcan your TVs too? Nawwwww
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RedLS1GTO's idea is a good one. If you're carrying for a specific situation, maybe get some training to prepare you if that situation presents itself. We train our military and LE, what's the harm in training civilians? |
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