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Short than and short now ... don't tell me you were one of the scary who got out?
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Ok so let me get this straight, it's ok to blame backwards when you're a Republican, but not when you're a Democrat. |
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09/30/2010 - 13,561,623,030,891.79 09/30/2009 - 11,909,829,003,511.75 09/30/2008 - 10,024,724,896,912.49 09/30/2007 - 9,007,653,372,262.48 09/30/2006 - 8,506,973,899,215.23 09/30/2005 - 7,932,709,661,723.50 09/30/2004 - 7,379,052,696,330.32 09/30/2003 - 6,783,231,062,743.62 09/30/2002 - 6,228,235,965,597.16 09/30/2001 - 5,807,463,412,200.06 09/30/2000 - 5,674,178,209,886.86 Somebody doubled the debt on their watch! And somebody was left with a Economic Collapse and 2 Wars. Oh I forget to answer your question; President Clinton left a Budget surplus, not a Debt Surplus. Last edited by ChasC5; 05-10-2011 at 3:26pm. |
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09/30/1998 - 5,526,193,008,897.62 09/30/1997 - 5,413,146,011,397.34 09/30/1996 - 5,224,810,939,135.73 09/29/1995 - 4,973,982,900,709.39 09/30/1994 - 4,692,749,910,013.32 09/30/1993 - 4,411,488,883,139.38 09/30/1992 - 4,064,620,655,521.66 Which year? |
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clinton's surplus was a magicians allusion. It didn't exist but people sure are convinced it did.
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Clinton didn't leave this 09/30/2008 - 10,024,724,896,912.49
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But back to topic, the President doesn't have any control over unemployment. Personally I blame mid size and larger corporations exporting tens of millions of jobs overseas. I'm shocked there isn't more of an uproar over this issue. What we need to do is eliminate all the tax breaks for these corporations and replace them with tax penalties. |
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But actually I doubt at the end of the day that would even be enough. Problem is Corporations are no longer in the business of making a product and a profit. Their only concern is making a profit for Wall Street. That's why I buy local from Mom and Pop if at all possible, even if it costs a few more dollars. Thank NAFTA for a lot of this. That's what allowed the massive exit of corporations allowing them to bring products back here for sale freely. When they passed that I said then, "well it now looks like we'll be buying our own products made in China" I was correct. I wish I would have been wrong. I don't know the answer but I do know I could do better than those who make these decisions now! |
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Again, you want businesses to stay. Give them a reason to stay. Or, you could keep up the trend we are on and keep driving them away with higher and higher taxes and more and more forced spending. |
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On top of that, how can we make the "atmosphere conductive to stay here" when over half the world's population is willing to work for less than a dollar a day? Are you willing to drop the minimum wage, our environmental protections and everything else that makes this country great to be competitive with India and China? To me this is a race to the bottom. It makes Wall Street rich and destroys the middle class. In the end it destroys America. Instead of racing to the bottom, I believe its better to force the other countries up to our standards. Quote:
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At the same time we are taxing the living shit out of domestic companies, and increasing those taxes at an insane rate. Don't blame the corporations, blame the idiotic government that makes it a simple choice to leave. |
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