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Old 11-16-2016, 6:20pm   #21
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Isn't the mayor the one that said "Just made my day Pam" ?

I mean, she acknowledged the other person's post and simply saw the humor in it. We can now be chastised for finding someone else's comments not offensive to us?
A mayor, like many other elected officials, is the representative of the people. People should expect a fair and unbiased representation at all times. The mayor can not and should not acknowledge, participate, or condone racial statements.
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A mayor, like many other elected officials, is the representative of the people. People should expect a fair and unbiased representation at all times. The mayor can not and should not acknowledge, participate, or condone racial statements.
>Begin Rant<

But therein lies the rub. Was it racial? If I say you look like an ape, that's not racist but if I say she does, it is? Calling someone an ape in and of itself is not racist. Now suppose someone, anyone LITERALLY looks like an ape. What is the PC way to communicate such a description?

This guy looks like an ape...


Is that racist? Should be because the ape and the man are both white. BUT IT'S NOT. He looks like an ape regardless of color.
Here is a hairless ape. Not sure what color that is. Gray?


That's crazy. She looks like an ape because she looks like an ape, not because she is black. Hell, what color is Chewbacca? She looks like him. Is he black? I mean the connection is not as obvious as it is made out to be. Can both a black person and a white person be called a pig? A Monster?

If I call someone stupid, if they genuinely are, it might hurt them. If someone called me stupid, it has no effect. I don't feel I am.

A disconnected party A calls another disconnected party B a name and party C thinks it is funny and a shit storm hits party C. That makes no sense.

Granted, she holds a public position, but she is still a person with an opinion of what is comical and what is not.

I'm not saying it is right, but I am sick and tired of rules being applied where it is convenient or supports an agenda.

If party A commented on a Trump picture and said he looks like an Orange Oompa Loompa and the mayor agreed, this entire issue would never see the light of day. THAT is why it is complete bullshit.

>End Rant here <
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You're telling me that was not a racial statement? I know, you know, and even the mayor resigned because of the statement.

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But therein lies the rub. Was it racial? If I say you look like an ape, that's not racist but if I say she does, it is? Calling someone an ape in and of itself is not racist. Now suppose someone, anyone LITERALLY looks like an ape. What is the PC way to communicate such a description?

This guy looks like an ape...


Is that racist? Should be because the ape and the man are both white. BUT IT'S NOT. He looks like an ape regardless of color.
Here is a hairless ape. Not sure what color that is. Gray?


That's crazy. She looks like an ape because she looks like an ape, not because she is black. Hell, what color is Chewbacca? She looks like him. Is he black? I mean the connection is not as obvious as it is made out to be. Can both a black person and a white person be called a pig? A Monster?

If I call someone stupid, if they genuinely are, it might hurt them. If someone called me stupid, it has no effect. I don't feel I am.

A disconnected party A calls another disconnected party B a name and party C thinks it is funny and a shit storm hits party C. That makes no sense.

Granted, she holds a public position, but she is still a person with an opinion of what is comical and what is not.

I'm not saying it is right, but I am sick and tired of rules being applied where it is convenient or supports an agenda.

If party A commented on a Trump picture and said he looks like an Orange Oompa Loompa and the mayor agreed, this entire issue would never see the light of day. THAT is why it is complete bullshit.

>End Rant here <
Calling a black person an ape or a monkey has been considered a racial slur for decades. That's the issue.

Calling a black person a cracker isn't racist, but calling a white person a cracker is.

Then of course there's the issue that only white people are considered racists.
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You're telling me that was not a racial statement? I know, you know, and even the mayor resigned because of the statement.

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The mayor is gutless. Different issue.
The mayor did not make the statement. Again, she is gutless.

She does look like an ape in heels. Not because she is black, but because she looks like an ape...in heels.

The resignation is probably the strongest evidence that the mayor was a racist. But the mayor did not make the statement. The whole thing is ass backwards and stupid.
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The mayor is gutless. Different issue.
The mayor did not make the statement. Again, she is gutless.

She does look like an ape in heels. Not because she is black, but because she looks like an ape...in heels.

The resignation is probably the strongest evidence that the mayor was a racist. But the mayor did not make the statement. The whole thing is ass backwards and stupid.
I'll try another way:

If the statement is made or liked by them, people know John/Jane Citizen is a racist. If the statement is made or liked by them, people know the mayor is a racist and can not effectively serve out the role of being a true representative of all the people.
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This is a picture of a well known big mouth in the Albany area. You ought to hear some of the things said about her and her crazy "Center for law and justice"

Draw your own conclusions!

You can google Alice Green if you want to, that is a real picture.
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This is a picture of a well known big mouth in the Albany area. You ought to hear some of the things said about her and her crazy "Center for law and justice"

Draw your own conclusions!

You can google Alice Green if you want to, that is a real picture.
I thought that was a picture of Whoopi.

I googled her name and evidently there is a porn actress named Alice Green.
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I thought that was a picture of Whoopi.

I googled her name and evidently there is a porn actress named Alice Green.
Did not know that, thanks!
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I'll try another way:

If the statement is made or liked by them, people know John/Jane Citizen is a racist. If the statement is made or liked by them, people know the mayor is a racist and can not effectively serve out the role of being a true representative of all the people.
I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying but I do think much is assumed.

I think it is funny when someone falls down the steps. It does not mean I am a sadist. It doesn't mean I am not concerned for their safety or well being. My first reaction is to laugh. Too many 3 Stooges shows growing up I guess.

So if someone posted a video of Michele falling down the stairs, I would post that it made my day. Doesn't at all mean I wish she'd get hurt or whatever.

I guess the bottom line is the mayor didn't even seem to defend her comment which I guess is testimony to your point. My reaction as mayor would have been different. In addition, the mayor should probably have called Pam instead of posting.

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I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying but I do think much is assumed.

I think it is funny when someone falls down the steps. It does not mean I am a sadist. It doesn't mean I am not concerned for their safety or well being. My first reaction is to laugh. Too many 3 Stooges shows growing up I guess.

So if someone posted a video of Michele falling down the stairs, I would post that it made my day. Doesn't at all mean I wish she'd get hurt or whatever.

I guess the bottom line is the mayor didn't even seem to defend her comment which I guess is testimony to your point. My reaction as mayor would have been different. In addition, the mayor should probably have called Pam instead of posting.



I'd prolly laugh too if I saw her entitled ass fall. Yet, I wouldn't make any kind of racial comment. The reason is I can make plenty of fun of her without going to race which is absolutely not right in the first place.
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More proof that you can't legislate away racism.
True and its getting worse.
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I'd prolly laugh too if I saw her entitled ass fall. Yet, I wouldn't make any kind of racial comment. The reason is I can make plenty of fun of her without going to race which is absolutely not right in the first place.
Problem is, black people will throw out the race card if/when they feel the least bit slighted.
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Hopefully Trump's presidency signals the red line: accusations of racism, sexism, anti-whateverism will no longer be an automatic destroyer of careers and lives.
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Hopefully Trump's presidency signals the red line: accusations of racism, sexism, anti-whateverism will no longer be an automatic destroyer of careers and lives.
MAYBE it will have parents teach their kids how to respond or ignore such comments in a positive manner.

The old sticks and stones bit.
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The old sticks and stones bit.
Is bullshit.

Words matter.
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If your double standards have a double standard, does that put all things back to equal?

I remember Obama making the comment towards Sarah Palin about putting lipstick on a pig.
He didn't quit.
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Problem is, black people will throw out the race card if/when they feel the least bit slighted.
And then there is that. That's bullshit too.
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