Sarsin' Frarsin' Rickin' Rackin' VATS

[Frizlefrak]

OK, this bullshit stops now. This is 3 times in one week Marco wouldn't crank over. Wait 5 minutes, jiggle key in ignition, and it starts. I'm ordering the bypass. Ecklers is the only one that has it for '95....and I'm not dinking around with soldering resistors from Radio Shack to save a measly $30. It's happening on both keys, so the problem is either two worn keys, or it's inside the column. There is near zero chance of the car getting stolen....garaged at home, secure parking at work if I drive it there.

I read on CF somewhere that the bypass module won't work on the later C4's (or only works once) because the PCM has to see an interruption of the resistor in the circuit between starts. How can that be? I leave my car in the garage with the keys in it all the time, and under normal conditions, it fires off without having to remove the key each time. The PCM shouldn't know the difference in that and a bypass module.

And even if it does, I'll mount a switch somewhere to simulate removal between starts. I'm sick and tired of VATS issues. It used to be once in a blue moon....now it's every other time.

If I could find the engineer that thought this was a good idea, I'd maul him.

[Wathen1955]

Your vette is pissed that you've been spending too much time with your ford.

[Frizlefrak]

Originally Posted by Wathen1955

Your vette is pissed that you've been spending too much time with your ford.

It keeps doing this caca, and it will find itself sitting more and more until I finally get fed up and put it on Craigslist.

Kidding, of course. But when I look at the simplicity of the 'Stang.....

[PLRX]

Friz, send the ECM to PCM for less. They will give you a tune, and can deactivate the VATS.

I got to re-send Betty Boop's to them. To change the speedometer back to stock, and will eliminate the VATS.

Did you clean the key VAT's chip with an eraser?

I recommend for you to post this thread in the CF. I would love to read all the "experts", and physics giving you advice. I bet Sam Ruger will have his 2 cents.

[WW7]

Originally Posted by Frizlefrak

There is near zero chance of the car getting stolen....garaged at home, secure parking at work if I drive it there..

Besides , who would want to steal one of these cars, there to much trouble.....
Friz, I would do like Pete suggests and have it turned off in the ecm.. Mick Stevens turned it off in my tune (Chip) and I couldn't be happier...Pete K had it deleted from his chip, but he also has a chip with it still active, that way if he goes on a trip he can insert the one with the active Vats incase someone messes with his car, then when he gets home he can put the one back in with the inactive vats..There's a positive side to having an older C4 with removable chips......WW

[Frizlefrak]

Can PCM for Less do it on the 95's? I was under the impression they could only reflash the earlier ones. If they can, that would eliminate it for once and for all.

I've cleaned the resistors until I'm......drum roll please.....blue in the face.

[PLRX]

Originally Posted by Frizlefrak

Can PCM for Less do it on the 95's? I was under the impression they could only reflash the earlier ones. If they can, that would eliminate it for once and for all.

I've cleaned the resistors until I'm......drum roll please.....blue in the face.

Oh yeah, they did Betty and The Ghost.

Betty Boop is stock and their tune brought her to life

[mike100]

Your can get the lock cylinder out with only a steering wheel removal- there is a vats connection in there. both of my cars have been ok with it though. I just lubricated the lock cyl works and have been fine.

If you do take off the wheel on a 94-up car. expect to order new plastic horn buttons, they break apart as soon as you touch them.

[Frizlefrak]

Originally Posted by PLRX

Oh yeah, they did Betty and The Ghost.

Betty Boop is stock and their tune brought her to life

How much to program out VATS?

[PLRX]

Originally Posted by mike100

horn buttons, they break apart as soon as you touch them.

those things are made of air

[Midnight85]

Don't look now Friz but I think a certain cat thinks this is funny.

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[Frizlefrak]

That's OK....that certain cat has an 8 month "no-start" condition on his Corvette, and it ain't got anything to do with VATS

[Sweet 90]

Originally Posted by Midnight85

Don't look now Friz but I think a certain cat thinks this is funny.

Nah, I would never make fun of a Barner with a Vette problem, but weather, I'm in like Flint

Originally Posted by Frizlefrak

That's OK....that certain cat has an 8 month "no-start" condition on his Corvette, and it ain't got anything to do with VATS

Says the man from sandstorm alley and where birds and other critters explode from the heat
OTOH, almost going into my 7th month of Vetting. Nah nah!!

[DukeAllen]

Originally Posted by Sweet 90

OTOH, almost going into my 7th month of Vetting. Nah nah!!

Those snow chains work wonders don't they?

[Frizlefrak]

Originally Posted by Sweet 90

Nah, I would never make fun of a Barner with a Vette problem, but weather, I'm in like Flint


Says the man from sandstorm alley and where birds and other critters explode from the heat
OTOH, almost going into my 7th month of Vetting. Nah nah!!

Going in to my 16th year....that would mean 192 months straight....exploding birds notwithstanding.

So your driving days are winding down about now, aren't they Sweetsie?

[Frizlefrak]

OH...almost forgot, ordered the bypass module from Heckler's. I'm certain it's the ignition cylinder....if I push the key all the way in, no start. If I push it in just to the point where the cylinder will turn, it cranks off every time.

[Sweet 90]

Originally Posted by Frizlefrak

So your driving days are winding down about now, aren't they Sweetsie?

Got a couple of months to go yet (maybe) there big fella

[PLRX]

Originally Posted by Sweet 90

Got a couple of months to go yet (maybe) there big fella

Oh man, I told my brother you were plowing snow already. OOOpps

[DukeAllen]

Originally Posted by PLRX

Oh man, I told my brother you were plowing snow already. OOOpps

I heard the snow plow motors up there don't get time to cool down for summer (July 31 and August 1) before they need them again.

[DukeAllen]

Originally Posted by Frizlefrak

Going in to my 16th year....that would mean 192 months straight....exploding birds notwithstanding.

So your driving days are winding down about now, aren't they Sweetsie?

Damn...that's 112 years for us 2 legged walkers. Do you have to take the seniors driving test?