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Old 01-18-2020, 7:57pm   #41
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A lot of companies to contract to hire for all employees. 6 month contract, if you fit the corporate culture and can fit the mold, you're hired after 6 months.
That's good. It still opens the company up to discrimination claims.
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That's good. It still opens the company up to discrimination claims.
If someone has an agenda, there will be discrimination claims no matter the hire method.
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Where I worked before, one of the new welders seemed "a little off", like he was trying to set somebody or the company up for a lawsuit.

Always writing in his notebook that "almost" never left his person. I say almost because he left it out when he went to the bathroom. The welding supervisor saw it out, flipped thru it real quick and made it disappear.

Found out shortly after that he was a "sue happy" employee. They had him take a welding test for an upcoming .gov project and he failed it. He got another chance at the welding test, failed it and got canned.
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A lot of companies to contract to hire for all employees. 6 month contract, if you fit the corporate culture and can fit the mold, you're hired after 6 months.
Prior to retirement, I used a similar strategy for entry level. Would go through a temp agency and bring the person on as a temp. No mention by me that it could lead to a permanent position. If they worked out ok for six months I would offer them a job. If it wasn’t working out, I just called the temp agency and they told the person not to bother coming back. I used the same agency for several years and it worked out pretty well.
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So, I spoke to HR wdnesday morning and answered all the questions (honestly) they had about the situation. Long story short... they said everything I told them matched with the complaint and the other staff members involved and that it sounded like a disgruntled student employee (including the instructor in the class last Thursday where the last fall out happened) trying to cause trouble to force us to let him keep his job if he withdrew his complaint. The instructor said she witnessed nothing inappropriate, heard nothing inappropriate, and barely noticed my team was in the room working until the problem was solved and she was asked to log onto the two computers in question to verify they were fixed to standard and that she/students could use them.

The issue was dropped, logged the way I explained above, and closed while I was still on the phone with HR. they agreed the only thing accurate in the student tech's compliant was the time frame of the event and the events themselves. Nobody could corroborate his complaints even after thoroughly digging for evidence to verify them. That was a relief, but HR did say that I was too nice and should have fired the kid a couple of weeks prior instead of trying to apply corrective training, but the corrective training was the right thing to do (mixed message). Oh well.

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Old 01-24-2020, 12:46pm   #47
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No shit, hell, we have more contractors complain about the free stuff we provide in the fridges. I told one the other day, if you don't like it, go someplace else to bitch, it's free. He's on my shit list, hard no hire
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i figured it would amount to nothing especially given the number of student techs I've had working for me over the past 7+/- years who have all been successful. This kid was only the 2nd who got fired. The first was a Navy E-6 reservist whose language was worse than mine, but out in front of clients and that was 2 years ago.
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No shit, hell, we have more contractors complain about the free stuff we provide in the fridges. I told one the other day, if you don't like it, go someplace else to bitch, it's free. He's on my shit list, hard no hire
Why would he complain about free shit that is available to him, too?
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Why would he complain about free shit that is available to him, too?
You'd be surprised how many people complain when they get something free. We had one employee complain her retention bonus just wasn't big enough, sense of entitlement is nuts in the Bay Area. She gone
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You'd be surprised how many people complain when they get something free. We had one employee complain her retention bonus just wasn't big enough, sense of entitlement is nuts in the Bay Area. She gone
You should keep free bags of dicks on hands for those kind of assholes (pun?)
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You should keep free bags of dicks on hands for those kind of assholes (pun?)
There aren't enough bags
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i figured it would amount to nothing especially given the number of student techs I've had working for me over the past 7+/- years who have all been successful. This kid was only the 2nd who got fired. The first was a Navy E-6 reservist whose language was worse than mine, but out in front of clients and that was 2 years ago.
There's a reason for the expression "Cuss like a sailor" And the reservist would be the Pg rated version.
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There's a reason for the expression "Cuss like a sailor" And the reservist would be the Pg rated version.
This kid was dropping more F-bombs than I would in a regular work day.
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This kid was dropping more F-bombs than I would in a regular work day.
Sounds to me like he was still in training.
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Why would he complain about free shit that is available to him, too?
Because he wanted avocado toast and oat milk lattes but all they had was doughnuts and regular coffee.
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Because he wanted avocado toast and oat milk lattes but all they had was doughnuts and regular coffee.
Oat milk sucks!!
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Oat milk sucks!!
How do you milk oats? Do they have teets?
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How do you milk oats? Do they have teets?
*teats

I have oats, Snide....can you milk me?
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*teats

I have oats, Snide....can you milk me?
OOHhhh,,No!! That' s so wrong.!
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