Come and Take It: Biden Regime is Trying to Ban Gas Stoves

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

Oh for God's sakes y'all don't actually believe this will happen do you?

This is tyranny. They say, "we are gonna take xxxxx away. There's some push back. xxxxx doesn't actually get taken away this time. Conservatives view this as a win, when in actuality, they just slowed tyranny, just a little bit. The Overton Window moves yet again.

No. This is bullshit. They propose something they want to take away from us, I propose we find something to take away from them, or something to re-legalize. I'd suggest the states go after the EPA to end the requirement to dilute gasoline with ethanol. It's bullshit, it harms engines, particularly small engines, it reduces mileage, and most importantly, because it's something the leftists want.

And now that corn is so friggen' expensive anyway, this is the time to do it, to stop wasting food by putting it in our gas tanks. Iowa farmers will be OK.

And let's reduce CAFE requirements for automakers, while we are at it. Look at all the expensive bullshit in our cars now, there simply to try and eke out a tiny bit more MPG, while making the cars less reliable and more prone to breakdown, like cylinder deactivation and auto-stop devices. Let's demand that all be scrapped. Nobody actually wants it, it's there by government edict, and makes cars more unaffordable.

[Yadkin]

Originally Posted by Onebadcad

Yeah, makes sense, as this issue is much more impactful than a $33T debt, border crises, and funding the ukrainian dood's real estate portfolio.

I have run out of energy trying to figure out how those idiots think,,,

'Hey, look over here...'

[Bill]

Some of our faves may be implicated here.

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[Mick]

Originally Posted by slewfoot

You guys really believe alot of shit.

Banning this will never happen. Maybe changing the standards/restrictions but not banning. They could not ban without the furnaces and anything else with a open flame.

They could possibly apply to new home construction

Isn't this already the case in CA?

[TheRealBadger]

Originally Posted by Mick

Isn't this already the case in CA?

Yes. By 2030 no gas stoves or gas water heaters in new homes.

[Bill]

In the criminal justice system, cooking based offenses are considered especially heinous. In Brandon's America, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Gas Stove Unit. These are their stories.

[Bill]

New York: The Brandon regime proposal is not insane enough, here, hold our non fat soy, half decaf latte.

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/01...iances-n523010

Not just stoves. NY to ban all gas appliances
Jazz Shaw 12:01 PM on January 11, 2023

Yesterday we looked at the federal government’s suggestion that they may either ban all gas stoves in the country or require expensive emission control modifications. This is supposedly being done as a public health measure, but under the covers, it seems like yet another covert attempt to eliminate fossil fuel use in America. That move, if it happens, clearly won’t be enough for the state of New York, where Governor Kathy Hochul will always try to bring her green energy one-upmanship game to the table. During her State of the State speech yesterday, Hochul pledged to not only do away with gas stoves but all natural gas appliances over the next decade. Thankfully, the ban would only apply to new construction projects in the initial phases. (Bloomberg)

Governor Kathy Hochul is proposing to make New York the first*state in the US to ban natural gas heating and appliances in new buildings, the latest salvo in an ongoing nationwide fight over the fuel.

Hochul called during her state-of-the-state address Tuesday to ban the use of fossil fuels by 2025 for newly built smaller structures and 2028 for larger ones. New York*would also prohibit the sale of any new fossil-fuel heating systems starting in 2030.

As I mentioned above, we’re not just talking about stoves in people’s kitchens and restaurants. This ban would prohibit gas furnaces, water heaters, and emergency generators as well. So if you’re in a building that runs entirely on electric heaters and the power goes out during the winter, well… best of luck.

The fact that the ban would only apply to new construction projects initially means that the situation won’t be quite as bad as those monitoring the energy crisis might fear. (At least initially.) Each new building that goes up will have all electrical appliances, so that will just put more of a strain on the already-struggling electrical grid. Of course, most of that electricity is still produced by fossil fuels, but let’s not quibble over the details and upset Kathy Hochul further.

At the same time, however, Hochul’s green dreams will not produce nearly the impact that she’s suggesting in terms of climate issues. More than half of the buildings in New York use one or more gas-powered appliances. Since they aren’t initially impacted by this, the natural gas pipelines will still be in place and all of those buildings will continue to burn natural gas until the appliances all die a natural death. New York will not be 100% free of fossil fuels by 2030 or really even anywhere close to it, despite the Governor’s lofty promises.

Meanwhile, the pushback against the report claiming that natural gas stoves pose a health hazard continues. Fox Business is reporting that the American Gas Association (AGA) is “clapping back” at these accusations and bringing along the science to back up its claims. They also point to the biased nature of the group sponsoring the controversial report.

“A December 2022 report in the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health linking natural gas cooking with asthma is not substantiated by sound science.” the AGA said in a press release Tuesday…

The AGA has previously pushed back against Trumka’s comments, saying that the emissions from cooking with gas are similar to emissions created when cooking with electric stoves and that they plan on submitting evidence to prove it.

“Any discussion or perpetuation of the allegations in this report which is funded by non-governmental organizations to advance their agenda to remove consumer energy choice and the option of natural gas is reckless.” the AGA added.

Yes, it’s easy enough to point to the fact that the AGA has a vested interest in supporting the use of clean, affordable natural gas, so taking a position like this may seem predictable. But as we pointed out here yesterday, they do appear to have science on their side. If there was an identifiable link between natural gas stoves and incidents of childhood asthma or any other respiratory illnesses, don’t you suppose someone would have noticed that over the past half-century or so?

We’ll see what sort of studies the AGA offers up in the next week or so. There should be plenty of time because nobody is talking about instituting such a ban immediately. And even if they tried, the effect on tens of millions of families and businesses, not to mention the economy, would be staggering. I don’t think that anyone, even the Biden administration, is foolish enough to rush such a thing through

[LATB]

Originally Posted by Iron Chef

Oh for God's sakes y'all don't actually believe this will happen do you?

Apparently it is.

[Rob]

[69L46]

Originally Posted by Rob

Not available in CA, NY or IL.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by 69L46

Not available in CA, NY or IL.

Heh. Meanwhile, in Illinois:

https://abc7chicago.com/illinois-ass...2023/12683807/

CHICAGO (WLS) -- Governor JB Pritzker has signed the state's assault weapon ban into law after the Illinois House approved an amended version Tuesday afternoon.

The ban was approved by the House at about 2:30 p.m. by a vote of 68-41. The governor signed it in a long ceremony Tuesday evening.

"The law that is now in place will save lives, and it won't just save one life. It will be hundreds or potentially thousands of lives," Pritzker said.


Democrats exchanged hugs and high fives after passing the bill, making Illinois the ninth state to outlaw the weapons that have become synonymous with mass shootings.

In the Speakers Gallery above, members of Moms Demand Actions celebrated the legislation they have been working on for years.

"The people of the great state of Illinois have been waiting decades for legislation just like this," said State Rep. Bob Morgan (D-North Suburbs), one of the bill's sponsors.

"Just a moment, of just election and joy and pride and gratefulness. Gratefulness for our lawmakers. So grateful for each and every one of our lawmakers who heard us and who took action and didn't just give thoughts and prayers," said Ashbey Beasley, who survived the Highland Park mass shooting last July.

With the governor's signature, the law takes effect immediately. It bans the sale of assault weapons and high capacity magazines, along with rapid fire devices.

The Senate bill did modify the bill the House first passed on what high-capacity magazines would be banned. For long guns, it would be for those with more than 10 rounds. For handguns, it would be those with more than 15 rounds.

Those who currently own any of the items being banned, who will be grandfathered in, will have to report the model, caliber and serial numbers of the weapons they own by Oct. 1.

Because registration most certainly never leads to confiscation.

The Illinois State Rifle Association said the ban will impact nearly 2.5 million Illinois gun owners. They plan to fight in court.

"We're going to fight for your rights. We're going to try and overturn this and declare this unconstitutional and will continue to fight for your rights," said Richard Pearson, executive director.

Only hours before the Senate vote, Pritzker took the oath of office for a second term, saying stricter gun laws are a top priority, with the big push coming six months after the deadly shooting in Highland Park.

"When I campaigned for reelection and promised to pass an assault weapons ban, eight states already had one, very soon, Illinois must be the ninth," Pritzker said.

But, the passage was not without debate.

"Here we are today. We're gonna make felons out of taxpayers," said Republican State Sen. Chapin Rose.

"This will not solve the problem, but this is absolutely a step in the right direction," said Senate President Don Harmon.


"I haven't read the bill, like I said the devil's in the details, but at least in the broad strokes, I think this is significant and important progress," Lightfoot said.

The bill got a joint endorsement Monday night from the governor, the House speaker, along with the Senate president.

Red text: my own thoughts on the subject.

[69L46]

Originally Posted by bill_daniels

Heh. Meanwhile, in Illinois:

https://abc7chicago.com/illinois-ass...2023/12683807/



Red text: my own thoughts on the subject.

Whew. I'll feel much safer next time I visit the city of Chicago.




At least there is a modicum of common sense outside of Cook County.

Illinois: Local law enforcement agencies respond to passage of assault weapons ban legislation

[Vandelay Industries]

AOC, Who Cooks With a Gas Stove, Says Gas Stoves Cause Brain Damage

[69L46]

Originally Posted by Vandelay Industries

AOC, Who Cooks With a Gas Stove, Says Gas Stoves Cause Brain Damage

Wolfgang Puck ought to whack her with a cast iron skillet. Perhaps it will knock some sense into her.

And of course, if you like your gas stove, you can keep your gas stove.

Twitter

[Bruze]

"There is nothing new under the sun." -- Holy Bible

"[King George] has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance." -- Thomas Jefferson, in reaction to British military rule in the colonies.


“There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” -- Ayn Rand

[Bruze]

Originally Posted by Vandelay Industries

AOC, Who Cooks With a Gas Stove, Says Gas Stoves Cause Brain Damage

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[mrvette]

CHINA commies are behind this......why?? easy/simple, because they buy a LOT of our natural gas from us already, IF we lessen/eliminate our domestic use, that reduces the VALUE/PRICE of our resource on the open markets, and so they pay less for it......

think AHEAD folks......

[Aerovette]

I will never surrender my assault stove.

I actually heard this morning that Biden himself, is against this bill. It's not like he has any say in the matter though.

[Bill]

[JRD77VET]

The people behind this "study" are a multi state company that converts large buildings to "alternative energy sources" and are endorsed by WEF.

In other words, you're being fed a line of bullshit from a New World Order company.